Coefficient of static friction of a sliding box

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The problem involves a box resting on an incline at a 34-degree angle with the horizontal. A parallel force of at least 235 N is required to prevent the box from sliding down, while the weight of the box is given as 800 N. The objective is to find the coefficient of static friction between the box and the incline.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the need for a clear diagram to visualize the forces acting on the box. There is an emphasis on understanding the direction of the friction force in relation to the applied force. Questions arise about how to determine the correct direction of friction and the implications of the forces involved.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring the setup and the forces at play. Some guidance has been offered regarding the importance of drawing a diagram and considering the direction of forces, but no consensus or resolution has been reached yet.

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There is a mention of the need to clarify assumptions about the forces acting on the box, particularly in relation to the applied force and the static friction involved. Participants are also navigating the challenge of interpreting the problem without jumping to conclusions or solutions.

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Homework Statement



A box rest on an incline making a 34 angle with the horizontal. It is found that a parallel force to the incline of at least 235 N can prevent the box from sliding down the incline. If the weight of the box is 800 N, find the coefficient of static friction between the box and the incline.

Homework Equations



Just wanted to know what formula to use or at least how construct the formula.


The Attempt at a Solution



Didn't know where to start.
 
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DB91 said:

Homework Statement



A box rest on an incline making a 34 angle with the horizontal. It is found that a parallel force to the incline of at least 235 N can prevent the box from sliding down the incline. If the weight of the box is 800 N, find the coefficient of static friction between the box and the incline.

Homework Equations



Just wanted to know what formula to use or at least how construct the formula.
Hi DB91. http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5725/red5e5etimes5e5e45e5e25.gif

You are not needing a formula yet! The first step is to draw a clear, neat diagram, to mark on everything you know here.

Post that when you've done it. :wink:
 
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NascentOxygen said:
Hi DB91. http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5725/red5e5etimes5e5e45e5e25.gif

You are not needing a formula yet! The first step is to draw a clear, neat diagram, to mark on everything you know here.

Post that when you've done it. :wink:

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui=2&ik=d83d1b3b4d&view=att&th=144c131a0bf54f59&attid=0.1&disp=emb&realattid=ii_144c1315a9dabb9a&zw&atsh=1
 
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Would it be: (800×9.8 sin⁡34)/235 = f
 
DB91 said:
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui=2&ik=d83d1b3b4d&view=att&th=144c131a0bf54f59&attid=0.1&disp=emb&realattid=ii_144c1315a9dabb9a&zw&atsh=1
Your image doesn't show up. (I doubt that that is a link to an image, anyway.)
 
I'll try a different address

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Your image is accessible now. (I think you have included a lot of whitespace in it?)

The question refers to an arrangement of forces needed "to prevent the box from sliding down" the incline. So this tells you the direction in which friction will be acting in your forces diagram. So, in what direction will friction be acting here, and why have you decided it must be in this direction?
 
NascentOxygen said:
Your image is accessible now. (I think you have included a lot of whitespace in it?)

The question refers to an arrangement of forces needed "to prevent the box from sliding down" the incline. So this tells you the direction in which friction will be acting in your forces diagram. So, in what direction will friction be acting here, and why have you decided it must be in this direction?

The friction force would be acting in the opposite direction of the force applied on the box. Right?
 
DB91 said:
The friction force would be acting in the opposite direction of the force applied on the box. Right?
Not necessarily. It depends on what the applied force is tending to do.

How could you work out the correct answer to this?
 
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NascentOxygen said:
Not necessarily. It depends on what the applied force is tending to do.

How could you work out the correct answer to this?

(800×9.8 sin⁡34)/235 = f...?

Sorry physics is defiantly not one of my strong points.
 
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Well, if the box were sitting stationary on the incline, and needed no extra external force to keep it steady, what direction would you be drawing the arrow showing the friction force that is acting on the block?
 

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