Find vlaues of k so matrix has no solutions, what if u change the position of k?

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The discussion revolves around determining the values of k for which the matrix system Ax = b has no solutions, as well as exploring variations of the problem where k's position changes or where the system may have infinitely many or unique solutions. The subject area includes linear algebra concepts such as matrix row reduction, linear independence, and solution spaces.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss row reduction of the matrix to find conditions on k that lead to no solutions. They also explore what changes if k is moved to the b vector or if the problem asks for conditions leading to infinitely many or unique solutions.

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Some participants have provided insights into the relationship between the linear independence of the columns of A and the existence of unique solutions. There is ongoing exploration of how to determine the conditions for different types of solutions based on the value of k.

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There is mention of the implications of k being in different positions within the matrix or vector, and how this affects the solution set. The discussion also reflects uncertainty about the specific steps needed to analyze the matrix for unique solutions.

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Hello everyone! I have a problem, it says Find hte values of k for which the matrix sysem Ax = b has no solutions. I got the answer for this one,
A =
6 2 2
-1 2 3
2 -6 k

b =
1
-3
0

I row reduced and ending up gettting:
6 3 0
0 -1 2
0 0 14-k
so k = 14, will give no solutions.

After that he says find:
Image space, nullspace, col space and row space, what are there dimensions, i also did this correctly.

But what happens if he changed the problem and said, Find the values of k for which the matrix system Ax = b has infitinatly many solutions or 1 unquie solution, then what would i do different? Thanks! I'm just trying to get all angles of this problem so i don't mess it up on the exam.

Also what if he puts k in the b vector insteed of the matrix A?
like
b =
-1
3
k
 
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mr_coffee said:
Hello everyone! I have a problem, it says Find hte values of k for which the matrix sysem Ax = b has no solutions. I got the answer for this one,
A =
6 2 2
-1 2 3
2 -6 k

b =
1
-3
0

I row reduced and ending up gettting:
6 3 0
0 -1 2
0 0 14-k
so k = 14, will give no solutions.

After that he says find:
Image space, nullspace, col space and row space, what are there dimensions, i also did this correctly.

But what happens if he changed the problem and said, Find the values of k for which the matrix system Ax = b has infitinatly many solutions or 1 unquie solution, then what would i do different? Thanks! I'm just trying to get all angles of this problem so i don't mess it up on the exam.

that depends on A, doesn't it. If A is invertible (cols linearly independent) then there is exactly one unique solution of Ax=b. assume A is singular. then if there exists one solution then there are infinitely many, so look if b is in the image.

Also what if he puts k in the b vector insteed of the matrix A?
like
b =
-1
3
k


depends on the A, same comments apply.
 
that depends on A, doesn't it. If A is invertible (cols linearly independent) then there is exactly one unique solution of Ax=b.
thanks for the responce, To see if A is invertiable, and to find the value of k in which there is exactly 1 unique solution, what would i do to the matrix, is what i was asking, like to find no solutions i row reduced until i got an expression of k, i got k -14 = 0;
so if k = 14, u got no solutions, say he changed the directions and said, find k so that there is 1 uqniue solution, then would it be like
k - 14 = ? that's what i don't get
 
I told you the answer to that: if the cols are linearly independent then there is a unique solution, and the cols are linearly indepndent exactly when k-14 doesn'te equal zero. you found k-14=0 for a reason, remember. something that is not linearly dependent is linearly independent, it's a binary option. and you know linearly dependent is equivalent to k=14=0...
 
ohhh my bad, thanks! everything is running together in my mind hah sorrry.
 

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