Find Volume of Object Bounded by z=4-4(x^2+y^2) and z=(x^2+y^2)^2 -1

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The problem involves finding the volume of a solid bounded above by the surface defined by z=4-4(x^2+y^2) and below by z=(x^2+y^2)^2 -1. The original poster attempts to set up the volume calculation using polar coordinates.

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  • Participants discuss the conversion to polar coordinates and the setup of the volume integral. Questions arise regarding the region of integration in Cartesian coordinates and the complexity of the integral setup.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different methods of integration and questioning the correctness of the original setup. A correction regarding the transformation of the lower boundary equation has been noted, indicating a potential error in the original poster's approach.

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The problem does not specify the region of integration explicitly, leading to some uncertainty in the setup. The original poster's sketch of the object suggests a specific shape, but details on the integration bounds remain unclear.

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The top of an object is bounded by [tex]z=4-4(x^2+y^2)[/tex] and the bottom is bounded by [tex]z=(x^2+y^2)^2 -1[/tex], find the volume.

So I converted to polar coordinates such that
top: [tex]z=4-4r^2[/tex]
bot: [tex]z=r^2 - 1[/tex]

Then I integrated the first quadrant and multiplied by 4, with the bounds of dzdrdø such that the volume was:
[tex]V= 4[ \int_{\theta=0}^{\pi/2} \int_{r=0}^{r=1} \int_{z=0}^{z=4-4r^2} r dz dr d \theta + \int_{\theta=0}^{\pi/2} \int_{r=0}^{r=1} \int_{z=r^2-1}^{z=0} r dz dr d\theta ][/tex]

The answer I got was 7pi/2, but the answer from the book is 8pi/3. I think I have done all the arithematic right, but did I set it up right?
 
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what is the region of integration in terms of x&y?
 
It isn't given, the problem just gave the object in terms of its top and bottom. I sketched it out, and the object is essentially one of those plastic easter eggs (where the top is longer and narrower than the bottom).

But, just going back then in terms of x&y the integration will be the very sticky:
[tex]V= 4[ \int_{y=0}^{y=1} \int_{x=0}^{x=\sqrt{1-y^2}} \int_{z=0}^{z=4-4(x^2+y^2)} dz dx dy + \int_{y=0}^{y=1} \int_{x=0}^{x=\sqrt{1-y^2}} \int_{z=(x^2+y^2)^2-1}^{z=0}dz dx dy][/tex]
Which does not look appealing to calculate.
 
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Ah, but [tex]z=(x^2+y^2)^2 -1[/tex] transforms into [tex]z=r^4 -1[/tex]! power 4 not 2.
 
Oh no, you are right! Oops.

Thanks.
 

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