Finding a basis for a subspace

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The discussion revolves around finding a basis for a subspace defined by two linear equations in R^4. Participants are exploring the implications of the equations on the dimensionality of the subspace and the corresponding basis vectors.

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  • Participants discuss the identification of basis vectors based on the given equations and the relationships between the variables. There is an exploration of the number of basis vectors required and the dimensionality of the subspace.

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Some participants have provided guidance on identifying basis vectors and have suggested a potential dimension for the subspace. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the variables and the implications for the basis vectors.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the equations provided and are questioning the dependencies among the variables. There is a mention of the need for an orthonormal basis, indicating further exploration is desired.

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Let U be a proper subspace of R^4 and let it be given by the equations:

1) x1+x2+x3+x4=0
2) x1-x2+2x3+x4=0

how do i find a basis for this subspace?

I got that (0,1,2,0) is one of the basis vectors since x2=2x3, therefore whatever we pick for x2, x3 will be twice that value.

i also got that x4=-x1-1.5x3, but does this require two more basis vectors or one?

ie, I'm asking, it seems that every x value can be determined once x1 and x2 are determined, therefore it should have 2 basis vectors, but i can't quite put it into that form
 
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I think that you have 2 leading variables and 2 dependent variables (parameters), i.e. your solution subspace is in dimension 2, with 2 vectors generating it.
reduced row echelon form gives you
x1 + 1.5x3 + x4 = 0
x2 - 0.5x3 = 0

from the first equation you have
x1 = - 1.5x3 - x4
from the second one you have
x2 = 0.5x3

and x3, x4 are parameters, so you can let x3 = t and x4 = s

Now

(x1,x2,x3,x4) = (-1.5t+s, 0.5t, t, s) =
t(-1.5, 0.5, 1, 0) + s(1, 0, 0, 1)

so the vectors you need to find are:

(-1.5, 0.5, 1, 0) and (1, 0, 0, 1).

I hope I didn't mess up with the numbers...
 
JasonJo said:
I got that (0,1,2,0) is one of the basis vectors since x2=2x3, therefore whatever we pick for x2, x3 will be twice that value.

It's 2*x2 = x3 actually
 
ok i found that basis, now how do i find an orthonormal basis?
 

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