Finding a constant of proportionality from a mass luminosity relation

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The discussion revolves around the mass-luminosity relation for main sequence stars, specifically the equation L ∝ M3.5. The original poster is attempting to find the constant of proportionality when both luminosity and mass are expressed in solar units.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the implications of using solar units for mass and luminosity, questioning how to apply the mass-luminosity relation to find the constant of proportionality. There is an exploration of substituting values for luminosity and mass, as well as concerns about the resulting calculations leading to a constant of zero.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on interpreting the mass of the Sun in solar units and addressing misconceptions about the calculations. Some participants suggest re-evaluating the values used in the calculations, while others confirm the understanding of the units involved.

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There is a focus on the definition of solar units, particularly how mass is measured relative to the Sun. Participants are also navigating the implications of large numbers in calculations and the potential for misunderstanding the relationship between the variables involved.

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For main sequence stars, the mass–luminosity relation can be approximated by L\proptoM^{3.5}
f) If luminosity and mass are both measured in solar units, what is the constant of
proportionality? {2}

I know that the luminosity value of the sun is 4x10^{26}W and
M = 2x10^{30} kg
 
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The "solar units" thing is telling you that mass is measured in terms of the mass of the Sun - such and such a star is seven times the mass of the Sun; M=7. The mass of the Sun is 1.

Can you take it from there?
 
Ibix said:
The "solar units" thing is telling you that mass is measured in terms of the mass of the Sun - such and such a star is seven times the mass of the Sun; M=7. The mass of the Sun is 1.

Can you take it from there?

as L\proptoM^{3.5} this is the same as L=kM^{3.5} so k=L/M^{3.5} and do I just substitute in the values for the luminosity of the sun and the mass of the sun?
 
Bingo. What do you get?
 
hi as L for the sun is 4x10^26 and M for the sun is 2x10^30 as the M is to the power 3.5 surely the constant is 0 as the denominator is huge compared to the numerator.
 
which doesn't make sense help!
 
It can't be zero. It can be very small. You can use the fact that (ab)n=anbn to take powers of the 4 and the 1026 separately.

But before you do, read my first post again. What's the mass of the Sun measured in solar masses?
 
we are not taking a power of (4x10^26) we are taking M=2x10^30 to the power 3.5 I know the mass of the sun is 1 in solar masses
 
So in solar units the constant is...
 
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are you saying in solar units the constant is 1?
 
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Yes - well done. A smart choice of unit can make life a lot easier.
 
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