Finding a Counterexample to a Wrong Statement about Limits

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The discussion revolves around finding a counterexample to a statement regarding the definition of limits in calculus. Participants are exploring the nuances of limit definitions and the implications of the epsilon-delta criterion.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Some participants express uncertainty about how to begin finding a counterexample, while others suggest specific approaches, such as considering functions that behave erratically near a limit point. Questions are raised about the validity of the limit definition provided and whether it requires proximity to the limit point.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing hints and redirection rather than direct solutions. There is an exploration of different interpretations of the limit definition and the conditions under which it may be false.

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Participants note that this is a homework problem, which restricts the type of assistance that can be provided. There is also a mention of the need for clarity in the relevant equations section, indicating potential gaps in the original problem statement.

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Homework Statement
The number L is the limit of ƒ(x) as x approaches c if, given any epsilon greater than 0, there exists a value of x for which lƒ(x) - Ll is less than epsilon.
Relevant Equations
lf(x)-Ll < epsilon
I’m complete stuck on this problem. I am not sure how to start to find a counterexample to this statement.
 
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another way is:

1. let ##f=x##
2. show that the limit of ##f## at ##a## is ##b##, where ##b\neq a##, by finding an ##x## such that ##|f(x)-b|<\epsilon##
3. conclude that the statement is false
 
vibha_ganji said:
Homework Statement:: The number L is the limit of ƒ(x) as x approaches c if, given any epsilon greater than 0, there exists a value of x for which lƒ(x) - Ll is less than epsilon.
Relevant Equations:: lf(x)-Ll < epsilon

I’m complete stuck on this problem. I am not sure how to start to find a counterexample to this statement.
Do you think it might be a valid definition of a limit? If not, why not? What's wrong with it?

You need to see what's wrong with that definition, and then you can find a counterexample.
 
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This is a homework problem, so we can only give hints and redirection to the work that you show us.
For counterexamples, look for functions that "wiggle around widely and very rapidly" as it approaches a point. There will be a sequence of x values that approach that point and whose function values are the same, but it wiggles around so that another sequence of x values approaches the same point and all have a second function value.
 
Does this 'definition' actually require x to be anywhere near c?

Your relevant equations section should really have included the actual definition of a limit.
 
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