Finding a Good Book on GR: Experiences & Resources

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around recommendations for books on General Relativity (GR), with participants sharing their experiences and resources. The scope includes both theoretical and mathematical aspects of GR, as well as related fields such as classical and relativistic field theory.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks a good book on GR, expressing familiarity with Special Relativity (SR) and a moderate comfort with tensors, while currently reading Øyvind Grøn's lecture notes.
  • Another participant recommends Wald's "General Relativity" and Misner, Thorne, and Wheeler's (MTW) book for a mathematically rigorous formulation of GR, noting their age.
  • A participant humorously comments that older books will look cooler on a shelf, suggesting that their physical size may require more shelf space.
  • One participant suggests W. Thirring's "Mathematical Physics" volumes 1 and 2 as a solid introduction to classical and relativistic field theory, emphasizing its use of differential forms and manifold calculus.
  • Another participant seeks clarification on the title of Thirring's work, noting difficulty in finding the specific volumes mentioned.
  • A later reply clarifies the title of Thirring's work as "Classical Mathematical Physics" and explains that it is more of a toolbox for rigorous solutions and mathematics rather than a textbook specifically on GR.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the value of the recommended books, but there is no consensus on a single best resource, as different perspectives on the suitability and focus of each book are presented.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that certain books may assume prior knowledge of topics and are intended for those looking for in-depth applications rather than introductory material.

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What is a good book on GR? I have a good amount of experience with SR, and have spent a good deal of time researching GR, from Wikipedia, to PDF's, and youtube videos. I am moderately comfortable with Tensors, but a book that covers them in depth would be nice, not necessary, however. (I can look things up as I go if I run into problems with the maths).

I started reading Øyvind Grøn's book on PDF, is anyone familiar with that?
Ok, I guess they're lecture notes:
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=øyvind+grøn+GR+PDF

It's been interesting, but I don't know if better material exists. I'm definitely not afraid to struggle, but I think I have a good enough conceptual understanding that if I do struggle, it will be in the maths.

Thanks in advance!
 
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I'd say Wald's General Relativity and the MTW are great for a mathematically rigorous formulation of GR, although they're a bit old.
 
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Old just means it will look cooler on my physics/math collection book shelf ;)
 
BiGyElLoWhAt said:
Old just means it will look cooler on my physics/math collection book shelf ;)
They're fat too (seriously), so you'll have to make quite a bit of space on your shelf.
 
Haha, it's mostly empty, thus far. I have about a dozen or a dozen and a half books, so there's more than enough room.
 
I would add W. Thirring "Mathematical Physics", volumes 1 and 2 (solid introduction to classical and relativistic field theory in the language of differential forms and manifold calculus). If not as a main resource, than to at least expand/clarify maths in other books. Rather old, but among my all-time favourites.

Plus it has a fair number of problems with solutions.
 
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That sounds great! Is the title simply Mathematical Physics? I can find Quantum Mathematical Physics by Thirring, but can't seem to find MP vol 1 and 2.
 
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That sounds great! Is the title simply Mathematical Physics? I can find Quantum Mathematical Physics by Thirring, but can't seem to find MP vol 1 and 2.

No, sorry. I have assumed that they used titles as in original (German) edition. It's this https://www.amazon.com/dp/0387406158/?tag=pfamazon01-20 ; Classical Mathematical Physics, Dynamical Systems and Field Theories. Original four volumes were, as it seems, glued together into Classical (vol 1 and 2) and Quantum (vol 3 and 4) Mathematical Physics. Excuse faulty assumption.

Addendum: It should be worth mentioning that this is quite literally mathematical physics, it is assumed that you know the basics on topics at hand and want to see more in-depth applications of differential geometry, methods of approach and solution of some of the most important cases and such. It's less of a textbook on GR or classical field theory and more of a toolbox for rigorous solutions and mathematics behind them. Featured five-star reviews in the linked Amazon page are very true to what I want to convey.
 
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