Finding a Point of Equality in a Twice Differentiable Function on [0,1]

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The discussion revolves around a twice differentiable function g defined on the interval [0,1], with specific conditions on its second derivative and endpoint values. The goal is to explore the existence of a point d in (0,1) where g(d) equals d, contingent on the condition that g'(1) is greater than 1.

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  • Participants consider using the Mean Value Theorem (MVT) to relate the behavior of g and its derivative. There are suggestions to visualize the problem through graphing, and some participants explore the implications of assuming g'(1) > 1. The idea of defining a new function f(x) = g(x) - x is also introduced as a potential approach.

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The discussion is active, with various participants exploring different angles of the problem. Some have proposed graphical methods to gain insight, while others are analyzing the implications of assumptions regarding the derivative at the endpoint. There is no explicit consensus yet, but several productive lines of reasoning are being developed.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the problem's conditions, including the behavior of g''(x) and the specific values of g at the endpoints. The exploration of assumptions, particularly regarding g'(1), is central to the discussion.

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Let g:[0,1]-->R be twice differentiable(both g and g' are differentiable functions) with g''(x)>0 for all x in [0,1]. If g(0)>0 and g(1)=1, show that g(d)=d for some point d in (0,1) iff g'(1)>1.


I thought I might use the MVT.
g'(c)=g(1)-g(0)/1=1-g(0)
g'(c)<0 then
 
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It might be helpful to sketch a graph of a function that meets these criteria. The graph should be concave up, have a y intercept that is positive, and g(1) = 1.
You have to show that the graph of g crosses the line y = x iff g'(1) > 1.
 
Ok so I assume g'(1)>1
Then g'(1)=lim[(g(x)-g(1)/(1-x)}=lim[(g(x)-1)/(1-x)]>1
 
Assume g'(1) > 1, then show that for some d in (0, 1), g(d) = d.

Then go the other way - g(d) = d ==> g'(1) = 1.

My suggestion of graphing was to help you get a geometric feel for this problem.
 
I guess I get stuck just assuming g'(1)>1

Then g'(1)=lim[(g(x)-g(1)/(1-x)}=lim[(g(x)-1)/(1-x)]>1
 
Let f(x) = g(x) - x. Can you do something with that?
 

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