Finding Absolute Extrema for a Rational Function with Imaginary Solutions

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The discussion revolves around finding the absolute maximum and minimum of the rational function f(x) = (x^2 - 4) / (x^2 + 4) over the interval [-4, 4]. Participants are exploring critical points and the implications of imaginary solutions in the context of real-valued functions.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss finding critical points by setting the derivative to zero and question the relevance of imaginary solutions. There is an exploration of algebraic manipulation and the implications of critical points within the specified interval.

Discussion Status

Some participants have identified that the only relevant critical point is at x = 0, while others have noted that imaginary solutions do not apply to the real interval being considered. Guidance has been provided regarding the treatment of these imaginary solutions.

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There is a focus on the interval [-4, 4] and the implications of critical points found outside of this range. Participants are also navigating the algebraic complexities of the function's derivative.

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Homework Statement


Find the absolute max/min of the function on it's interval.
[tex]f(x)=\frac{x^2-4}{x^2+4}[/tex]
Interval: [-4,4]

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[tex]f(x)=\frac{x^2-4}{x^2+4}[/tex]

I basically want to find all the critical points, so I set the denominator to zero and found a critical point to be where x = 2i, and x = -2i.

Then I took the derivative of the function as so:

[tex]f'(x) = \frac{2x(x^2+4)-2x(x^2-4)}{(x^2+4)^2}[/tex]

Setting the numerator to zero should find where the derivative is equal to zero, but that expands out to this:
[tex]2x^3+8x-2x^3+8x[/tex]
Which is basically zero anyway. I was going to try to factor out something from the numerator and denominator (if possible) to cancel it out so I could get something, but I thought I would lose solutions doing that. So here is where I am confused? I tried graphing it, thinking that it would just return the line y=0, but my TI-89 just says "not a function or program, error"?

edit: fixed
 
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Hint Hint: 2 negatives make a positive. Look at your expansion again :)
 
Ah yeah. Thanks! So the other critical point is 0 then.
 
Your algebra is faulty. The x terms don't cancel. And you probably don't care about imaginary solution in the denominator.
 
[tex]2x^3+8x-2x^3+8x=0[/tex]
from the numerator, works out to be:
[tex]16x=0[/tex]
x=0

I was not sure what to do with the imaginary solutions, essentially the only critical point found is at x=0 then I would imagine. Leaving me to check the endpoints and x=0 so find the absolutes correct?
 
QuarkCharmer said:
[tex]2x^3+8x-2x^3+8x=0[/tex]
from the numerator, works out to be:
[tex]16x=0[/tex]
x=0

I was not sure what to do with the imaginary solutions, essentially the only critical point found is at x=0 then I would imagine. Leaving me to check the endpoints and x=0 so find the absolutes correct?

Correct. The imaginary solutions are irrelevant. They aren't in the real interval [-4,4].
 
Alright, I think I got it now. This was the only one in the set of problems that had the possibility of an imaginary solution, and I really wasn't sure if that counted or not.

Thanks for the help.
 

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