Finding Area Bounded by Ellipse Using (u,v) Transformation

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The discussion revolves around finding the area bounded by an ellipse using a transformation from (u,v) to (x,y). The original poster mentions having expressions for x and y as simple functions of u and v, and they express uncertainty regarding the limits of integration needed for the area calculation.

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  • Participants discuss the transformation process and the need for limits of integration. There is a mention of computing the Jacobian and the relationship between the ellipse and a circle in the transformed coordinates.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the transformation and questioning the necessity of integration. Some guidance has been offered regarding the limits of integration and the relationship between the ellipse and the circle, but no consensus has been reached on the best approach to proceed.

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There is a noted lack of explicit limits of integration, which is a point of contention in the discussion. The original poster acknowledges a misunderstanding in the transformation direction, which may affect their approach.

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Using a transformation (u,v) -> (x, y), I need to find the area bounded by a particular ellipse.

I am given expressions for x as u,and y as v, they are simple functions.

So I can simple plug in the expressions for u and v for the ellipse, and compute the Jacobian. But I was not given any limits of integration. I am unsure how to work them out.

Any help?

Thank you.
 
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Let's see what you've done so far, please.
 
Jacobian is 1/SQRT 6

Ellipse:2x^2 + 3y^2 = 6

Ellipse, under x=u/SQRT 2 and y=v/SQRT 3

is: u^2 + v^2 = 6
 
It looks to me like you're doing a transformation (x,y) -> (u,v), not the other way around. Anyway, do you really even need to do an integral? The graph of the relation u^2+v^2=6 is just a circle in the uv plane!
 
Yea my bad, they were meant to be the other way round.

I know that's a circle, but I'm pretty sure we are meant to use the double integral method.

Now that I have the Jacobian and the function in terms of u and v, I am unsure how to proceed? The limits are what is stopping me!
 
To find the area, you want to integrate over the entire ellipse so, since the ellipse is mapped to the circle, you want to integrate over the entire circle: -\sqrt{6}\le x\le \sqrt{6}, -\sqrt{6- x^2}\le y\le \sqrt{6- x^2}. But I agree with Tom Matton. I would consider it far better to show that you understand what you are doing rather than just apply a formula: the area of the ellipse is 1/sqrt{6} times the area of the circle.

Actually if one of my students were to answer this by noting that the area inside the ellipse x^2/a^2+ y^2/b^2= 1 is \pi ab, I would give that full credit!
 

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