Compute the given Fourier transform by using the given tables

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The discussion revolves around understanding the Fourier transform of a specific signal involving circular and rectangular functions, with an emphasis on using provided tables for computation. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the reasoning behind the application of these tables and the transformations involved.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the Fourier transform using tables but questions the underlying principles, particularly regarding linearity and the scaling theorem in one and two dimensions. Participants inquire about the original poster's understanding of one-dimensional Fourier transforms and suggest considering the scaling theorem.

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Participants are actively engaging in clarifying concepts and exploring the original poster's reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the scaling theorem, and the original poster reflects on their understanding of the problem, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions a lack of focus on the mathematical details of Fourier transforms in their class, which may contribute to their uncertainty about the tables and their applications. There is also a mention of homework constraints that limit the depth of understanding expected from students.

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Homework Statement
"Compute the Fourier transform G_B(u,v) of the signal g_B(x,y) = 0.5 circ(x/B,y/B) - 0.5 rect(2x/B,2y/B) + 0.8 circ(4x/B,4y/B) - 0.8 circ(8x/B,8y/B), where B is a constant, using these tables ( https://docdro.id/dPaHriL ) (which is a two-page document)."
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(i), (iv) and possibly (v) or (vi) from these tables ( https://docdro.id/dPaHriL (which is a two-page document) ).
Hello, everyone. :)

I'm trying to do a certain problem regarding Fourier transforms (but one that's supposedly easy, because of just using tables, rather than fully computing stuff), and I know how to do it, but I don't know why it works. Here's the problem statement.:
"Compute the Fourier transform G_B(u,v) of the signal g_B(x,y) = 0.5 circ(x/B,y/B) - 0.5 rect(2x/B,2y/B) + 0.8 circ(4x/B,4y/B) - 0.8 circ(8x/B,8y/B), where B is a constant, using these tables ( https://docdro.id/dPaHriL ) (which is a two-page document)."

Here ( https://docdro.id/oWMtf7i ) is the answer.

For both the rect and circ (which should probably be ellipse, right?) functions, I think I'm supposed to use (i) and (iv) (from the second page of the tables pdf document), and I get the solution by replacing all occurrences of u and v in each of the four subparts of g_B(x,y), 0.5circ(x/B,y/B), -0.5rect(2x/B,2y/B), 0.8circ(4x/B,4y/B) and -0.8circ(8x/B,8y/B), by u multiplied by [1/(B/denominator)]^(-T) (-T means inverse transpose) = B/denominator and v multiplied by [1/(B/denominator)]^(-T) = B/denominator, respectively, but by multiplying the whole frequency-domain function by 1/det [1/(B/denominator)] = B/denominator twice (as in squared, not times two), instead of once. To try to justify this, I'm thinking one has to perhaps think of the frequency-domain functions as a product of two functions and use (v) or (vi), but if I'm even on the right track, the details of that are not clicking in my mind.

If someone could help me fully understand what's going on, I would GREATLY appreciate it!
 
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s3a said:
but I don't know why it works
Can be read in two ways:
  1. you don't know that FTs are linear
  2. you don't know why these tables are as they are
To make an inroad other than: 'which is it ?' my question to you is: what do you know about 1D FTs ?
 
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BvU said:
what do you know about 1D FTs ?
@s3a , Specifically, are you familiar with the Scaling Theorem in 1 D? The 2 D version just uses matrices instead of 1-dimensional scaling.
 
Thank you both for your responses. :)

Before getting the epiphany I just got (in large part because I was thinking of scaling in two dimensions because of focusing more on that aspect because of seeing "scaling theorem" and "1-dimensional scaling" (which made me think of two-dimensional scaling)), I had written what I wrote below (which I'm not removing, just in case), but it appears that the solution to my problem was that I was setting A = [1/(B/denominator)] = 1/(B/denominator), instead of A = [1/(B/denominator),0;0,1/(B/denominator)]. Is that the correct solution to my problem, though, or is it just a fluke?

What I was going to post before my epiphany:
BvU said:
Can be read in two ways:
  1. you don't know that FTs are linear
  2. you don't know why these tables are as they are
To make an inroad other than: 'which is it ?' my question to you is: what do you know about 1D FTs ?
Well, (i) makes it seem to me that Fourier transforms are linear.

And, I guess I don't know how these tables are as they are because I didn't compute any of them (because our class doesn't focus too much on those mathematical details since we're mostly just expected to know when to call them and their inverse functions in computer code, in addition to how to compute them by hand using the tables I posted). Having said that, I vaguely suspect that it's probably (Eq.1) from here ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourier_transform#Definition ), followed by replacing the part with the natural exponential that involves an imaginary number with a trigonometric equivalent that only involves real numbers by using a certain identity.

FactChecker said:
@s3a , Specifically, are you familiar with the Scaling Theorem in 1 D? The 2 D version just uses matrices instead of 1-dimensional scaling.
I didn't know about that theorem, however if I think about scaling each dimension, then I can see why the the 1/det A is multiplied twice (as in squared, not times two) (since each of the dimensions is scaled by the same amount). Having said that, I guess the real issue is that I'm misunderstanding how to use (iv) somehow, but what is wrong with my thinking?
 

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