MHB Finding Area Under Parametric Curves: What Formula Should You Use?

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The discussion focuses on understanding the area under parametric curves defined by equations x=f(t) and y=g(t). It clarifies that using the formulas ∫αβ g(t)f'(t)dt and ∫αβ g'(t)f(t)dt yields different areas depending on whether the x or y coordinate is varied. An example is requested to illustrate the area calculation using the formula ∫βα f(t)g(t)dt, emphasizing the importance of tracing the curve from the lowest to highest x-coordinate. The conversation highlights confusion regarding which area is being calculated, as the problem does not specify this detail. Overall, the thread aims to clarify the application of these formulas in calculating areas under parametric curves.
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Hello MHB,
I start read about area of parametric equation and got some problem understanding.
I got two question. here is a link

1. Does it mather if we say $$x=f(t)$$ and $$y=g(t)$$ on $$a \leq x \leq b$$
Does this both formula works?
$$\int_\alpha^\beta g(t)f'(t)dt$$ and $$\int_\alpha^\beta g'(t)f(t)dt$$

2. Could someone give me an exemple on that "Area Under Parametric Curve, Formula II"$$\int_\beta^\alpha f(t)g(t)dt$$

Regards,
 
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Petrus said:
Hello MHB,
I start read about area of parametric equation and got some problem understanding.
I got two question. here is a link

1. Does it mather if we say $$x=f(t)$$ and $$y=g(t)$$ on $$a \leq x \leq b$$
Does this both formula works?
$$\int_\alpha^\beta g(t)f'(t)dt$$ and $$\int_\alpha^\beta g'(t)f(t)dt$$

You can do that, but you'll be tracing a different area.
In the first case you're tracing the curve by changing its x-coordinate and you'll get the area between the curve and the x-axis.
In the second case you're changing its y-coordinate and you'll get the area between the curve and the y-axis.

2. Could someone give me an exemple on that "Area Under Parametric Curve, Formula II"

$$\int_\beta^\alpha f(t)g(t)dt$$

Sure.
Pick the same example as in the article, but with $x=-6(\theta-\sin \theta)$.

The point is that the curve is supposed to be traced from the lowest x coordinate to the highest x coordinate.
If the definition of f(t) means it starts at the highest x coordinate and ends at the lowest x coordinate, you should swap the integral boundaries to compensate.
 
I like Serena said:
You can do that, but you'll be tracing a different area.
In the first case you're tracing the curve by changing its x-coordinate and you'll get the area between the curve and the x-axis.
In the second case you're changing its y-coordinate and you'll get the area between the curve and the y-axis.
Sure.
Pick the same example as in the article, but with $x=-6(\theta-\sin \theta)$.

The point is that the curve is supposed to be traced from the lowest x coordinate to the highest x coordinate.
If the definition of f(t) means it starts at the highest x coordinate and ends at the lowest x coordinate, you should swap the integral boundaries to compensate.
Hello I like Serena,
I am glad that I got a responed, thank you!
I got one question about
I like Serena said:
You can do that, but you'll be tracing a different area.
In the first case you're tracing the curve by changing its x-coordinate and you'll get the area between the curve and the x-axis.
In the second case you're changing its y-coordinate and you'll get the area between the curve and the y-axis.
In the problem it never mention what area they want, I read also from my book and it use the one with $$\int_\alpha^\beta g(t)f'(t)dt$$ but on example it never mention what area tracing or I am confused?

Regards,
 
Petrus said:
In the problem it never mention what area they want, I read also from my book and it use the one with $$\int_\alpha^\beta g(t)f'(t)dt$$ but on example it never mention what area tracing or I am confused?

Paul writes:
We will do this in much the same way that we found the first derivative in the previous section. We will first recall how to find the area under F(x) on $a \le x \le b$.
$$A=\int_a^b F(x) dx$$​

This means he's finding the area between the x-axis and the curve F(x) that is probably assumed to be above the x-axis.
This area is further bounded by a vertical line on the left side and a vertical line on the right side.
 
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