Finding Axes of Conic Section Equation

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the axes of a general conic section equation represented as Q(x,y)=Ax^2 +Bxy+Cy^2 +Dx+ Ey+F =0. Participants explore methods to determine the major and minor axes after identifying the center coordinates.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Mathematical reasoning, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks assistance in determining the axes of a conic section after finding the center coordinates.
  • Another participant suggests that the axes can be found using the eigenvectors of the matrix (A B/2; B/2 C).
  • There is a mention of applying a formula for rotating coordinates to eliminate the xy term from the equation.
  • A participant expresses confusion about how the eigenvalues relate to the parameters 'a' and 'b' in the standard form of a hyperbola, x^2 / a^2 - y^2 / b^2 = 1.
  • A hint is provided regarding the eigenvalues associated with the hyperbola equation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants have differing views on the relationship between eigenvalues and the parameters 'a' and 'b', indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the conic section's properties and the specific conditions under which the eigenvalues and eigenvectors are applicable.

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Hi,

I've been stuck on this for a few days now.

I am trying to determine the X and Y axis of the general conic section equation:

Q(x,y)=Ax^2 +Bxy+Cy^2 +Dx+ Ey+F =0

I have A, B, C, D, E, and F.

I have already determined the center coordinates, but I have not found information on how to find the two minor and major axes of the equations.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks

AS
 
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Hi aamirnshah! Welcome to PF! :smile:

They'll be the eigenvectors of the matrix (A B/2; B/2 C).

Alternatively, just apply the formula for rotating coordinates through a particular angle to the original equation so as to produce an xy term of zero. :wink:
 


tiny-tim said:
Hi aamirnshah! Welcome to PF! :smile:

They'll be the eigenvectors of the matrix (A B/2; B/2 C).

Alternatively, just apply the formula for rotating coordinates through a particular angle to the original equation so as to produce an xy term of zero. :wink:

Wow thanks for the quick reply. So I have obtained the eigenvector of the matrix (A B/2; B/2 C). From my research I have determined that I also need to determine the eigenvalues of that matrix. But from here, I am still confused. How does this relate to knowing the 'a' and the 'b' in the equation:

x^2 / a^2 - y^2 / b^2 = 1
 
aamirnshah said:
From my research I have determined that I also need to determine the eigenvalues of that matrix. But from here, I am still confused. How does this relate to knowing the 'a' and the 'b' in the equation:

x^2 / a^2 - y^2 / b^2 = 1

Hint: what are the eigenvalues associated with x2/a2 - y2/b2 = 1? :wink:
 

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