Finding Capacitor Voltage Time Dependencies

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the time dependencies of capacitor voltages in a circuit where the switch is closed at t=0, with initial voltages V01 and V02 specified. The subject area pertains to circuit analysis, specifically involving capacitors and their behavior over time.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants inquire about the methods used to determine the capacitor voltages and discuss the implications of initial conditions and steady-state behavior. There are questions regarding the correct application of limits in integration and the interpretation of feedback from a teacher regarding the solution's validity.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with each other's attempts to clarify misunderstandings and explore the feedback provided by the teacher. There is a recognition of potential mistakes in the integration process and a focus on ensuring that initial conditions are correctly represented in the solutions. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly concerning the exponential decay of charge in the circuit.

Contextual Notes

There are references to specific feedback from a teacher indicating that the initial conditions do not align with the proposed solutions. Participants are also grappling with the implications of charge conservation in the context of first-order circuits.

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Homework Statement


The switch is closed at the moment t=0 and initial capacitor voltages are V01 and V02. How to find capacitor voltage time dependencies for both capacitors.

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What have you tried till now ?
 
Qwertywerty said:
What have you tried till now ?
 

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Qwertywerty said:
It seems fine .
I also think so, but my teacher's feedback:
"Time constant and steady-state are OK but the whole solution not - when I substitute t=0 and I don't get V1(0) and V2(0).

Steady-state may be found using charge conservation law. The difference between initial condition and steady-state decays exponentially in the 1st order circuit.

So please make another (final) iteration."
 
I think I see a mistake - you first use indefinite integration for ' i ' as a function of ' t ' .
You don't use the limits correctly , i.e. , you don't subtract ' i ' at t = 0 .

Correct this , and then we can check if some other error creeps up .

Hope this helps .
 
Qwertywerty said:
I think I see a mistake - you first use indefinite integration for ' i ' as a function of ' t ' .
You don't use the limits correctly , i.e. , you don't subtract ' i ' at t = 0 .

Correct this , and then we can check if some other error creeps up .

Hope this helps .
I did not quiet get it. What limits should I use: t and 0?
 
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[USER=32958]@lex[/USER]@nder said:
I did not quiet get it. What limits should I use: t and 0?
Could you explain what my teacher wanted to say by: "the whole solution not - when I substitute t=0 and I don't get V1(0) and V2(0)" and "difference between initial condition and steady-state decays exponentially in the 1st order circuit"
 
[USER=32958]@lex[/USER]@nder said:
Could you explain what my teacher wanted to say by: "the whole solution not - when I substitute t=0 and I don't get V1(0) and V2(0)" and "difference between initial condition and steady-state decays exponentially in the 1st order circuit"
The first part - At t = 0 , by your solution , V1 is not equal to V10 , as given in the question . Same for the other capacitor's initial potential drop ( V20 ) .

The second part - This means that q ( charge on anyone capacitor at time t ) would be such a function that -

q0 - q = k.ek1 , where k and k1 are some constants that will be found on solving entirely .
 
Qwertywerty said:
I think I see a mistake - you first use indefinite integration for ' i ' as a function of ' t ' .
You don't use the limits correctly , i.e. , you don't subtract ' i ' at t = 0 .

Correct this , and then we can check if some other error creeps up .

Hope this helps .
Isn't there when t=0: V1(0)=V10? Because by calculation I get the same equation.

Did you mean this? But answer doesn't change.
 
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