Finding cartesian equation of plane from 3 points

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The problem involves finding the Cartesian equation of a plane defined by three points in three-dimensional space and determining if a fourth point lies on that plane. The subject area includes vector mathematics and geometry.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the method of using the cross product to find a normal vector and derive the plane's equation. Questions arise regarding the equivalence of different forms of the plane's equation and the rationale behind simplifying it.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants clarifying the relationship between different forms of the plane's equation and exploring the reasoning behind simplifications. There is no explicit consensus on the necessity of dividing by -2, but several participants engage with the concept of expressing equations in simpler forms.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the conventions of writing equations and the implications of negative coefficients in the context of homework guidelines.

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Homework Statement



Find a Cartesian equation of the plane P containing A (2, 0, −3) , B(1, −1, 6) and C(5, 5, 0) , and determine if point D(3, 2, 3) lies on P.

Homework Equations



vector cross product
ax + by + cz = 0


The Attempt at a Solution



Take the cross product of AB and AC to get normal vector.

AB = -i -j + 9k
AC = 31 + 5j + 3k

I used the determinant method at got:
AB X AC = -48i + 30j -2k

Now as A, B and C lie on P, take a point say A(2, 0, -3)

-48(x - 2) +30(y) -2(z + 3) = 0

rearranging that gives:

-48x + 30y -2z = -90

Then putting in the x, y and z values for D the equation holds.

The question I have is that the answer for the plane given is:

24x − 15y + z = 45

Is there a more common method to follow to get this equation rather than the one I got?
 
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The answer is the same one you got. It's just been divided by (-2). That doesn't change the plane. E.g. the equation 9x=3 has exactly the same solutions as 3x=1, doesn't it?
 
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Yes, but why divide by -2? My question was more, how would they get that answer instead? If I am calculating a different (but equivalent) answer then how?
 
Hi username12345! :smile:
username12345 said:
Yes, but why divide by -2?

Same reason as why we write 3/2 and not 6/4 or 21/14. :wink:

(and the minus because it's customary to start with x, so it makes sense for the x coefficient to be positive)
 
in other words, you do it in the simplest form, about the minus sign,don’t you think [guys] it’s because the many parts in the equation being negative, so we multiply it by the sign [-]?!
 

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