Finding Connected Components of a Set of Circles

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the connected components of a set of circles defined by their centers and radii, specifically circles centered at (0,1) with radii approaching 1 as n increases. Participants explore the nature of these circles in terms of their connectedness, openness, and closure within the context of topology.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that the connected components form an open set at infinity as the radii increase towards 1.
  • Another participant asserts that each B_n is a connectedness component and that every connectedness component corresponds to one of the B_n.
  • A participant questions whether the B_n are open, noting that they are closed except when n approaches infinity.
  • Another participant clarifies that each B_n is a one-dimensional subset of R² and argues that they cannot be open since small neighborhoods around points on the circles contain points not on the circles, indicating they have empty interior.
  • One participant suggests that in the subspace topology, each circle can be considered both open and closed due to the nature of separation and convergence in the space.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether the circles are open or closed and the nature of their connectedness. There is no consensus on the characterization of the circles in terms of openness and closure.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the limit of the circles as n approaches infinity and the implications for their connectedness and topology, but the discussion does not resolve the mathematical nuances involved.

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I came across this question. We're looking for the conctd components of this set of circles: centered at (0,1) and with radius 1-1/n

B ((0,1), 1-1/n) for n = 3, ...to infinity

The radii are getting larger up to 1. I'm thinking the connectd comp. form an open set at infinity

would it be something like: \{(x,y) \in \mathbb{R}^2 | (x-1)^2+y^2<1/n \ with \ n \ being \ a \ large \ pos. \ integer \}

or is it the \emptyset

what do you think?
 
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No, each B_n is a connectedness component and every connectedness component is one of the B_n.
 
thx,
I can see that the B_n are closed except when n approaches \infty. They never reach pt where radius = 0.
What then, are they open.
 
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I don't know what you mean. Each Bn corresponds to a specific, finite, n. Limit as n goes to infinity of Bn is the circle with center at the origin and radius 1. No, they are not open. These circles are one dimensional subsets of R2. At each point on a circle, a small neighborhood will contain some points that are not on the circle so, far from being open, each Bn has empty interior.
 
Bachelier said:
thx,
I can see that the B_n are closed except when n approaches \infty. They never reach pt where radius = 0.
What then, are they open.

In the subspace topology that the union of the circles inherits form the plane, each circle is both open and closed: open because it can be separated from the others by the intersection of two open sets in the plane; closed because every Cauchy sequence in it converges in it.
 

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