Finding Constants Using Continuity Conditions

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The problem involves a ball falling from a height H above a lake, experiencing gravitational and buoyant forces. The task is to derive expressions for the velocity and position of the ball while it falls through air and when it enters the water, using continuity conditions to find constants in the equations of motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the equations of motion for the ball in air and question the initial conditions, particularly the position of the ball at time t=0. There is an attempt to clarify the time at which the ball enters the water and how to apply continuity conditions for the transition between air and water.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided expressions for the motion of the ball in air and have begun to explore the implications of continuity conditions. There is ongoing clarification regarding the setup of the problem and the timing of the ball's entry into the water.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion regarding the initial conditions and the interpretation of the problem statement, particularly concerning the height of the ball at the start of its fall and the timing of its entry into the water.

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Homework Statement

A ball falls from rest at a height H above a lake. Let y = 0 at the surface of the lake. As the ball falls, it experiences a gravitational force -mg. When it enters the water, it experiences a buoyant force B so the net force in the water is B - mg.

a) Write an expression for v(t) and y(t) while the ball is falling in air.
b) In the water, let v2(t) = at + b and y2(t) = (1/2)at2 + bt + c where a = (B - mg)/m. Use
continuity conditions at the surface of the water to find the constants b and c.

The attempt at a solution

a)
Since [itex]\vec{v}=\int\vec{a}dt=\vec{a}t+\vec{v}_{0}[/itex] and the initial velocity is 0, we have [itex]\vec{v}(t)=\vec{a}t[/itex]. Using [itex]\vec{F}=m\vec{a}[/itex] yields [itex]v(t)=-gt[/itex].
Also, [itex]\vec{r}=\int\vec{v}dt=\frac{1}{2}\vec{a}t^{2}+\vec{v}t+\vec{r}_{0}[/itex]. Again, since the initial velocity is 0 and [itex]y=r-r_{0}[/itex] we have [itex]y(t)=-\frac{1}{2}gt^{2}[/itex].
 
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glebovg said:
Homework Statement

A ball falls from rest at a height H above a lake. Let y = 0 at the surface of the lake. As the ball falls, it experiences a gravitational force -mg. When it enters the water, it experiences a buoyant force B so the net force in the water is B - mg.

a) Write an expression for v(t) and y(t) while the ball is falling in air.
b) In the water, let v2(t) = at + b and y2(t) = (1/2)at2 + bt + c where a = (B - mg)/m. Use
continuity conditions at the surface of the water to find the constants b and c.

The attempt at a solution

a)
Since [itex]\vec{v}=\int\vec{a}dt=\vec{a}t+\vec{v}_{0}[/itex] and the initial velocity is 0, we have [itex]\vec{v}(t)=\vec{a}t[/itex]. Using [itex]\vec{F}=m\vec{a}[/itex] yields [itex]v(t)=-gt[/itex].
Also, [itex]\vec{r}=\int\vec{v}dt=\frac{1}{2}\vec{a}t^{2}+\vec{v}t+\vec{r}_{0}[/itex]. Again, since the initial velocity is 0 and [itex]y=r-r_{0}[/itex] we have [itex]y(t)=-\frac{1}{2}gt^{2}[/itex].
Isn't the ball at y = H, at time t=0 ?
 
Yes. So the last equation should be [itex]y(t)=-\frac{1}{2}gt^{2} + H[/itex]. Can you help with b)? I do not understand the question.
 
glebovg said:
Yes. So the last equation should be [itex]y(t)=-\frac{1}{2}gt^{2} + H[/itex]. Can you help with b)? I do not understand the question.
At what time does the ball enter the water?
 
When y = 0, [itex]-\frac{1}{2}gt^{2}+H=0[/itex] and so [itex]t=\sqrt{\frac{2H}{g}}[/itex].
 
I do not understand the question. Please help.
 

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