Finding distance given two different velocities and times?

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The problem involves a cart traveling on a straight track with two distinct phases: first at a constant velocity of 2.5 m/s for 9.0 seconds, followed by uniform acceleration to a final velocity of 6.0 m/s over 15 seconds. The objective is to calculate the total distance traveled by the cart.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of average velocity and the application of formulas for distance under different conditions of motion. Some question the appropriateness of using average speed over the entire journey and suggest breaking the problem into two phases: constant velocity and acceleration.

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The discussion is exploring various interpretations of the problem, with participants providing insights on how to approach the calculations. There is a focus on clarifying the use of formulas for different segments of the motion, and some guidance has been offered regarding the need to consider each phase separately.

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Participants note that the problem involves both constant velocity and acceleration, which complicates the application of certain equations. There is an emphasis on the need to correctly interpret the phases of motion to avoid miscalculations.

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Homework Statement


On a straight track, a cart travels with a constant velocity of 2.5m/s for 9.0s. It then uniformly accelerates to a final velocity of 6.0m/s in 15s. Calculate the total distance traveled by the cart.

Homework Equations


Vavg = Vi+Vf/2
d=(Vf+Vi/2)x t
d=Vi x t + 1/2at^2
a=Vf-Vi/t

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried finding the average velocity by adding together 6.0 and 2.5 before dividing it by 2 to get 4.25. Then, I multiplied that number by the total time of 24s (15+9). This got me the number 102, but the answer key says the answer is 86?
 
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sam1865 said:

Homework Statement


On a straight track, a cart travels with a constant velocity of 2.5m/s for 9.0s. It then uniformly accelerates to a final velocity of 6.0m/s in 15s. Calculate the total distance traveled by the cart.

Homework Equations


Vavg = Vi+Vf/2
d=(Vf+Vi/2)x t
d=Vi x t + 1/2at^2
a=Vf-Vi/t

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried finding the average velocity by adding together 6.0 and 2.5 before dividing it by 2 to get 4.25. Then, I multiplied that number by the total time of 24s (15+9). This got me the number 102, but the answer key says the answer is 86?

IDK why you chose this approach. The problem clearly states that the cart accelerates from 2.5 m/s to a final velocity of 6.0 m/s, which means that during the acceleration, average velocities will not give correct distances. You state the proper formulas in your post; why not use them?

You need to work this problem in two phases: 1. the portion where the velocity is constant, and 2. the portion where the car is accelerating.
 
More succinctly, why did you multiply the average speed of the second (accelerative) leg of the journey by the duration of the entire journey?
 
The formulas you are using are for constant acceleration, but there isn't constant acceleration overall. There is zero acceleration for the first 9.0 s, and then there is non-zero acceleration from then until the end of the problem. You cannot apply these formulas over the entire interval in question, but you can apply them to each interval alone. This is one way of doing the problem.

Perhaps a more intuitive and easier-to-see approach would be to graph the velocity as a function of time (you'd have a piece-wise graph) and then integrate your graph over the entire interval (you'd have to do two integrals). This would amount to finding the area under the graph, and the total area under the graph will be the total displacement.
 

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