Finding Eigenvector for 3x3 Matrix: Step-by-Step Guide

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The discussion revolves around finding the eigenvector for a specific 3x3 matrix, particularly one that contains a variable 'a' and zeros in other positions. The subject area is linear algebra, focusing on eigenvalues and eigenvectors.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of eigenvalues and the subsequent steps to find eigenvectors. There are attempts to clarify the definition of eigenvectors and the implications of having a zero eigenvalue. Questions arise regarding the validity of proposed eigenvectors and the conditions under which they hold true.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and corrections regarding the nature of eigenvectors. Some guidance has been offered about the flexibility of eigenvector representation, emphasizing that any non-zero scalar multiple is also valid. Multiple interpretations of the eigenvectors corresponding to the eigenvalue of zero are being explored.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the requirement for eigenvectors to be non-zero and the implications of having multiple valid forms based on the eigenvalue being zero. There is an ongoing examination of assumptions related to the matrix's structure and the definitions involved.

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any1 can please tell me the eigen vector for following matrix:

[0 0 a
0 0 0
0 0 0]

please elaborate ur answer!
 
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Welcome to Physics Forums, flash123!

Have you checked out the rules? Pretty cool stuff there!

In particular, we cannot provide answers to your questions. We can (and will, to the best of our ability) help you find it. So, you have to show us some effort from your side.

If you know nothing about eigenvectors, Google is a good place to start.
 
hey sourabh, i did try to solve the question.
i got eigen values as 0, 0 , 0
and after using [A-lambdaI]X=0
i am getting 0X1+0X2+aX3=0
which makes eigen vector as [0 0 0 ]
whereas the answer is [0 0 a]
 
[0, 0, 0] cannot an eigenvector. But [0 0 a] is also not correct. The definition of "eigenvalue" is that \lambda is an eigenvalue of A if and only if there exist a non-zero vector, v, such that Av= \lambda v. Yes, the only eigenvalue is 0. Applying the given matrix to a vector [x, y, z] gives [az, 0, 0] and that must be equal 0[x, y, z]= [0, 0, 0] so we must have z= 0. We have NO information about x or y so they can be anything.
 
sorry hallsofevy, the correct answer is [a 0 0]
but after solving the eqn [A-lamdaI][X]=0 or AX=lamdaX
i got az+0+0 = 0
so how to proceed further and arrive at the correct answer?
 
What do you mean "the answer is ..."? Do you understand what an eigenvector is? If a given vector is an eigenvector so is any multiple of it. You cannot just say "the eigenvector" is any specific vector. I said before, "we must have z= 0. We have NO information about x or y so they can be anything."

That includes your [a, 0, 0], taking x= a, y= 0. It also includes [1, 0, 0], [0, 0 1], and any linear combination x[1, 0, 0]+ y[0, 1, 0]= [x, y, 0].

For any x, y,
\begin{bmatrix}0 & 0 & a \\ 0 & 0 & 0 \\ 0 & 0 & 0 \end{bmatrix}\begin{bmatrix}x \\ y \\ 0\end{bmatrix}= \begin{bmatrix}0 \\ 0 \\ 0\end{bmatrix}= 0\begin{bmatrix}x \\ y\\ 0\end{bmatrix}
 
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thanks hallsofevy that was helpful!

since x and y could be anything
so the possible eigen vectors corresponding to eigen value 0 are
[1 0 0],[0 1 0] or [1 1 0]

please tell me am i correct now?
 

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