Finding Electric Field due to hemispherical charge distribution

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric field along the Z-axis due to a hemispherical charge distribution. The original poster describes their setup involving a hemispherical open shell of radius R, oriented symmetrically about the Z-axis, and expresses difficulty in deriving the electric field correctly.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss setting up the problem using spherical coordinates and integrating to find the electric field. There are attempts to derive the electric field from a differential surface element and to relate it to the potential difference. Questions arise regarding the validity of the derived electric field expression and concerns about encountering a divide by zero error during integration.

Discussion Status

Some participants have suggested methods for calculating the electric field by considering thin circular strips on the hemisphere and integrating over the angle. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between the electric field and potential, with no explicit consensus on the correct approach yet.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions spending significant time on the problem and feeling frustrated, indicating a potential constraint in understanding or applying the concepts involved. There is also a reference to a divide by zero error, suggesting a need for careful consideration of limits in the integration process.

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Homework Statement


I need to find the electric field along the Z-axis for a hemispherical open shell of radius R (open face down). the shell is oriented so its symmetrical about the Z axis.


The Attempt at a Solution


What I've done is set it up, taken the vector from the origin (at the center of what would be the full sphere), and subtracted the vector bound to the z axis, to get the vector from the differential surface of the shell to an arbitrary point on the z axis. I then integrate, using spherical coordinates the 1/r^2 expression...

I can't seem to get this to work, can someone guide me through the right steps?, I've been trying to do this for about 7hrs now, and feel really stupid since I'm a 3rd year uni student majoring in physics...
 
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consider any thin circular strip on hemisphere at angle θ from vertical and subtending angle dθ on center.

find field due to this just like you do for ring on axis
then integrate it from θ = 0 to 90 degree
 
I've tried that, and i end up with E= [(surface charge density)*(R)^2]/[2*epsilon*(R-z)^2]

where R is the hemispheres radius, and z, is a point on the z axis...

i then integrate this to find the potential between R (along the z axis), and the origin, which ends up in a divide by 0 error... so i know the Electric field equation cannot be right although it seems to check out dimensionally...

is there an easier way to find the potential between the origin and R(on the z axis) that I'm missing? right now I'm just going after the electric field, which should then lead to a simple integration to get the potential difference between the two points. or have i forgotten something?
 
S[e^x]=f(u)^n;3119613 said:
I've tried that, and i end up with E= [(surface charge density)*(R)^2]/[2*epsilon*(R-z)^2]

where R is the hemispheres radius, and z, is a point on the z axis...

Perhaps you could show how you arrived at that? The well-known result for the on-axis field produced by a ring of charge Q of radius a and distance x is given by:

[tex]E_x = \frac{{kQx}}{{\left( {x^2 + a^2 } \right)^{{3 \mathord{\left/<br /> {\vphantom {3 2}} \right.<br /> \kern-\nulldelimiterspace} 2}} }}[/tex]
 

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