Finding electric potential with non-uniform charge density?

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The discussion revolves around finding the electric potential of a spherical shell with a non-uniform charge density defined as σ=k*sinθ, where k is a constant. Participants are exploring the implications of this charge distribution and the integration required to calculate the potential using the formula V=1/4πε ∫σ/r da.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to set up the integral for electric potential but are questioning the integration boundaries for regions inside and outside the shell. There are discussions about the implications of the charge distribution on the electric field and potential.

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The discussion is active with various perspectives being explored. Some participants have suggested using Green's functions and Legendre polynomials, while others are questioning assumptions about the nature of the shell (conducting vs. non-conducting) and the symmetry of the charge distribution. There is no explicit consensus, but several productive lines of inquiry are being pursued.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of non-uniform charge density and its effects on electric potential, with some confusion regarding the nature of the shell and the application of Gauss's law. There are references to specific texts for further guidance, indicating a reliance on established physics principles.

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We have a spherical shell. We want to find the electric potential everywhere. Given charge density σ=k*sinθ, k is constant. Also it is wanted from direct integration. V=1/4piε ∫σ/r da. How can we do this, please help?
I thought because it is sphere da is in the direction of r so da=r^2sinθ dθ d(phi) in spherical coordinates but I couldn't solve it.
 
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Have tried ∫sin² x dx = ½ x − ¼ sin 2x + C?
 
My question is what would be the integral boundaries for Vinside and Voutside. When you just integrate sin^2x dx you just get one result. How can you write for inside and for outside?
 
The electric filed is zero. Gauss theorem. The volume inside does not have a charge. You cannot have a closed surface with a charge inside, ∇ρ=0, because all the charges are distributed on the surface. That's the reason why the electric field inside a metal is zero. But the potential is cte or zero. It is the same from the physical point of view
 
There is an expansion of the Green's function in terms of Legendre polynomials. You could use that. If that doen't work, then you could use the expansion of the Green's function in terms of spherical harmonics. Refer chapter 3 of Jackson, 3rd edition, in particular, section 3.3 .
Since this problem has azimuthal symmetry, you may also want to have a look at equation 3.33 in Jackson and apply the boundary conditions that the potential is zero at infinity and should be finite at zero.
@ cabrera:
woudn't agree with you as:
1) Nothing mentioned in the problem specifies that it is a metal.
2) Charge density does not have spherical symmetry.
 
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physwizard, I meant inside the shell. The field should zero,shouldn't it?
 
cabrera said:
physwizard, I meant inside the shell. The field should zero,shouldn't it?

no, not with a non-conducting shell. The charges don't move around on a non-conductor.

Suggest that we move this to the homework forum and follow the rules there?
 
If the charge density was uniform, wouldn't the potential inside be equal to the potential of the surface? V=1/4pi epsilon * Q/R . But in this case the charge density is not uniform. Also it is a conducting shell so i think the electric field inside should be zero because of gauss law, there is no q enclosed since all the q is on surface then field=0
 

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