Finding Expression for Theta with Flywheel and Piston Movement

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding an expression for the angle theta (θ) as a function of the linear displacement x of a piston within a cylinder, which is connected to a conrod and a flywheel. The focus is on deriving this relationship mathematically, considering the geometric constraints imposed by the system.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Mathematical reasoning, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in deriving the expression for θ as a function of x, noting the complexity involved in the relationship due to changing parameters a and b.
  • Another participant suggests that searching for piston motion equations online could provide helpful insights.
  • A third participant acknowledges the necessity of complex rearrangements and mentions that the problem involves changing angles for both the crank and conrod, implying the use of compound angle formulas.
  • A later reply indicates that the cosine rule was recalled as a useful tool in the derivation process, leading to the development of a relationship that was shared in a separate post.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on a straightforward method for deriving the expression for θ. There are multiple approaches suggested, and the discussion reflects varying levels of complexity in the mathematical treatment of the problem.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the dependence on geometric relationships and the potential complications arising from the changing angles in the system. Specific assumptions about the configuration of the piston and flywheel are not fully articulated, leaving some aspects unresolved.

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Hi I am struglling to work out the expression for theta=f(x) for a piston, that moves linearly by a distance of x along the inside of the cylinder, and is attached to a conrod of length l, whose other end is at a radius r on a fly wheel. I want an expression for the angle theta that the fly wheel moves through, when the piston moves back a distance x. I think I am over complicating things but I just can't seem to find the expression.

I have attached a basic drawing.

cos(theta)=a/r

sin(theta)=h/r

both a and b change when x changes, and so I don't know how I can find an expression for theta that doesn't invlove a very nasty re-arrange..
 

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You have to have one of those nasty rearranges I'm afraid.

Your problem stems from the fact that to describe the postion, the crank angle and conrod angles are changing. You can rewrite the equations to show displacement in terms of theta only but that will involve comopound angle formulas.

If you don't have to show a derivation, use the wiki link.
 

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