Finding final velocity and position of a two ended rocket

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The problem involves a two-ended rocket consisting of a central block and two side blocks, with explosions propelling the side blocks. The original poster seeks to determine the final velocity and position of the central block after a sequence of explosions, starting from an initial stationary state on a frictionless surface.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to apply conservation of momentum to find the velocities of the blocks after each explosion and subsequently calculate the position of the central block. They express uncertainty about whether to combine velocities or treat them separately after the second explosion.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's calculations, providing feedback on arithmetic and clarifying the approach to combining velocities. There is a recognition of errors in the original calculations, and some participants suggest re-evaluating specific steps without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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There is mention of potential typos in the calculations and confusion regarding the addition of velocities versus positions. The original poster has indicated that previous attempts yielded incorrect results, prompting further discussion on the correct application of principles.

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The figure shows a two-ended “rocket” that is initially stationary on a frictionless floor, with its center at the origin of an x axis. The rocket consists of a central block C (of mass M = 6.40 kg) and blocks L and R (each of massm = 1.90 kg) on the left and right sides. Small explosions can shoot either of the side blocks away from block C and along the x axis. Here is the sequence: (1) At time t = 0, block L is shot to the left with a speed of 2.80 m/s relative to the velocity that the explosion gives the rest of the rocket. (2) Next, at time t = 0.90 s, block R is shot to the right with a speed of 2.80 m/s relative to the velocity that block C then has (after the second explosion). At t = 2.80 s, what are (a) the velocity of block C (including sign) and (b) the position of its center?

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Okay so first I need to find the velocity of the center and right blocks after the explosion at t=0
Mass of right block(relative velocity- velocity of center and right blocks)=combined mass of right and left blocks*velocity of right and left blocks
1.90kg(2.80m/s-v)=8.30kg*
v=0.523 m/s
Taking that velocity and multiplying by 0.9 seconds gives the position of the center of the center block at the time that the second explosion occurs
0.523m/s*0.9s= 0.4707m

Next is to use the same method to find the velocity of the center block after the second explosion, I will skip the equation modeling as it is redundant and crude as I am unable to use notation.
1.90kg(2.80m/s-v)=6.40kg*v
v=0.6410 m/s but in the negative x direction so v=-0.6410 m/s
Now this is where I became uncertain. Is this velocity of -0.6410 m/s the new velocity of the center block and as it is a frictonless surface the answer to part a or should it be added the the original velocity of 0.523 m/s?
v=-0.6410m/s
or
v=-0.6410m/s+0.523m/s=-0.1703m/s
That would also affect part b as it would be
0.4707m+-0.6410(2.8-0.9)=-0.7472 m
or
0.4707m+-0.703(2.8-0.9)=0.14713m

The problem being that I entered both sets of solutions and both proved to be incorrect. What is wrong with my approach of using the conservation of momentum?
 
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Jrlinton said:
1.90kg(2.80m/s-v)=8.30kg*
v=0.523 m/s
I take it the 8.3 is a typo. I agree with the 0.52 (but 0.522, not 0.523).
Jrlinton said:
v=-0.6410m/s+0.523m/s=-0.1703m/s
The idea is right, but check the arithmetic.
 
Okay so my problem was that instead of adding the velocity from the first explosion to the velocity of the second, I added the position of the first explosion to the second. This was just me quickly glancing at the wrong number. I got the final velocity to be -0.119 m/s and the final position to be 0.244 m
 
Jrlinton said:
Okay so my problem was that instead of adding the velocity from the first explosion to the velocity of the second, I added the position of the first explosion to the second. This was just me quickly glancing at the wrong number. I got the final velocity to be -0.119 m/s and the final position to be 0.244 m
Looks right.
 
Haruspex comes to my rescue once again
 

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