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The discussion centers on calculating the force exerted on a 4.50 kg crate suspended by a rope, given the height function y(t) = (2.80 m/s)t + (0.61 m/s³)t³. The correct approach involves taking the second derivative of the height function to find acceleration, resulting in a(t) = 3.66t m/s². The final force calculation must include gravitational force, leading to F = ma + mg, where g = 9.81 m/s², correcting the initial miscalculation of 65.9 N.

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Homework Statement


A 4.50kg crate is suspended from the end of a short vertical rope of negligible mass. An upward force F(t)is applied to the end of the rope, and the height of the crate above its initial position is given by ##y(t) = (2.80m/s)t +(0.61m/s^3)t^3## What is the force at 4 seconds?

Homework Equations


$$F = ma$$

The Attempt at a Solution


Taking the double derivative to get an acceleration equation:
##y'(t) = (3*0.61) t^2 + 2.80##
##y''(t) = a(t) = (0.61*3*2) t = 3.66t##

## F = 4.50 kg * 3.66 * 4.00s = 65.9 N##

Although MasteringPhysics tells me my answer's wrong, it doesn't give any explanation.
 
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Homework Statement


A 4.50kg crate is suspended from the end of a short vertical rope of negligible mass. An upward force F(t)is applied to the end of the rope, and the height of the crate above its initial position is given by ##y(t) = (2.80m/s)t +(0.61m/s^3)t^3## What is the force at 4 seconds?

Homework Equations


$$F = ma$$

The Attempt at a Solution


Taking the double derivative to get an acceleration equation:
##y'(t) = (3*0.61) t^2 + 2.80##
##y''(t) = a(t) = (0.61*3*2) t = 3.66t##

## F = 4.50 kg * 3.66 * 4.00s = 65.9 N##

Although MasteringPhysics tells me my answer's wrong, it doesn't give any explanation.
Your last equation says force = mass x acceleration x time. Is that what Newton said?
 
I thought 3.66t would give the acceleration since the original equation gives the jerk.
 
One issue is that you didn't carry the units of the constants through your differentiations. Thus your constant in the last equation should be 3.66 m/s3.

A second issue is that I don't see where the force due to gravity on the crate is taken into account.
 
Ah! Thank you very much. That was the missing piece.
 

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