Finding gauge pressure for gas inside light bulb as it heats up

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The discussion revolves around determining the gauge pressure of gas inside a light bulb as it heats up, specifically focusing on the relationship between pressure and temperature in a constant volume scenario.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive the gauge pressure using the ideal gas law but expresses uncertainty about how to proceed without knowing the constant volume. Participants question what additional information may be relevant to the problem.

Discussion Status

Some participants have pointed out that there is information not yet utilized in the original poster's calculations. There is a recognition of a specific condition regarding the gas being at atmospheric pressure at a given temperature, which seems to help clarify the situation for the original poster.

Contextual Notes

Participants are discussing the implications of the gas being at atmospheric pressure at 20.0°C, which may influence the calculations and assumptions being made regarding the system.

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Homework Statement
Suppose a gas-filled incandescent light bulb is manufactured so that the gas inside the bulb is at atmospheric pressure when the bulb has a temperature of 20.0°C. (a) Find the gauge pressure inside such a bulb when it is hot, assuming its average temperature is 60.0°C (an approximation) and neglecting any change in volume due to thermal expansion or gas leaks. (b) The actual final pressure for the light bulb will be less than calculated in part (a) because the glass bulb will expand. Is this effect significant?
Relevant Equations
PV = nRT
For this 19(a),
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The answer is 0.137 atm.

My working is
##P_{gauge} = P_f - P_i##
##P_{gauge} = \frac{nRT_f}{V_f} - \frac{nRT_i}{V_i}##
##P_{gauge} = \frac{nRT_f}{V} - \frac{nRT_i}{V}## since volume does not change
##P_{gauge} = \frac{nR}{V}(T_f - T_i)##

However, I am not sure how to go from here since we do not know the constant volume. Does someone please know how to tackle this?

Many thanks!
 
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There is a piece of information you have not used. Can you spot it?
 
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haruspex said:
There is a piece of information you have not used. Can you spot it?
Thank you for your reply @haruspex!

No sorry, I cannot spot it.

Many thanks!
 
"the gas inside the bulb is at atmospheric pressure when the bulb has a temperature of 20.0°C"
 
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haruspex said:
"the gas inside the bulb is at atmospheric pressure when the bulb has a temperature of 20.0°C"
Ah, thank you for your reply @haruspex!

I see how the volume of the gas can be found now :)
 
$$\frac{P_f}{P_i}=\frac{T_f}{T_i}$$
 
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Chestermiller said:
$$\frac{P_f}{P_i}=\frac{T_f}{T_i}$$
Thank you for your reply @Chestermiller !
 

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