Finding Group Velocity and Phase Velocity

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The discussion revolves around finding the group velocity of ocean waves, given the phase velocity formula involving gravitational acceleration and wavelength. Participants are exploring the relationships between phase velocity, group velocity, and wavenumber.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the definitions of phase and group velocity, with one suggesting the use of wavenumber and angular frequency to derive group velocity. There is an exploration of expressing angular frequency in terms of wavenumber.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing relevant equations and expressing gratitude for contributions. There is a clear engagement with the mathematical relationships involved, though no consensus or resolution has been reached.

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Participants are working within the constraints of the problem as posed, focusing on deriving group velocity without additional context or information about specific wave conditions.

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The phase velocity of ocean waves is (gλ/2∏)1/2,where g is the acceleration of gravity.Find the group velocity of ocean waves.

Relevant equations: λ=h/γmv phase velocity= c2/v(velocity of particle) group velocity=v (velocity of particle).
thnxx in advance
 
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The wavenumber k:

k = \frac{2\pi}{\lambda}

The wavenumber k is the angular frequency in space. The higher k is, the closer the wave peaks are together in space.

The phase velocity is

v_{phase} = \omega / k

where ω is the angular frequency in time

the group velocity is

v_{group} = \frac{ \partial \omega}{ \partial k}

I would express ω in terms of k, using the expression given for phase velocity. Then I would take the derivative of ω with respect to k.
 
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Thanks a lot X
 
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Thank you so much :)
 

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