Finding KE when given de Broglie wavelength

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The discussion focuses on calculating the kinetic energy (KE) of a proton given its de Broglie wavelength of 10 femtometers (fm). The correct formula used is the de Broglie wavelength equation, λ = h/(mv), and the kinetic energy formula, KE = (1/2)(m)(v^2). The participants identified a common error in unit conversion, emphasizing the necessity of maintaining SI units throughout the calculations to achieve accurate results. The final kinetic energy was calculated to be approximately 8.2 x 10^-18 MeV.

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[SOLVED] Finding KE when given de Broglie wavelength

Homework Statement


What is the kinetic energy, in MeV, of a proton with a de Broglie wavelength of 10fm?
1 MeV = 10^6 eV
1 fm = 10^-15m
1 eV = 1.602 x 10^-19 J
h = 6.63 x 10^-34 Js
wavelength = 10 x 10^-15 m = 10^-5 nm
Mass proton = 1.673 x 10^-27 kg


Homework Equations



wavelength = h/mv
KE = (1/2)(m)(v^2)


The Attempt at a Solution



I feel like I did this right, but I still got the incorrect answer and I can't seem to notice what I did wrong.

v = (6.63 x 10^-34) / (10^-5)(1.673 x 10^-27) = .03962 m/s
K = .5(1.673 x 10^-27)(.03862^2) = 1.316 x 10^-30 J = 8.2 x 10^-12 eV
= 8.2 x 10^-18 MeV
 
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vspectra said:
v = (6.63 x 10^-34) / (10^-5)(1.673 x 10^-27) = .03962 m/s
K = .5(1.673 x 10^-27)(.03862^2) = 1.316 x 10^-30 J = 8.2 x 10^-12 eV
= 8.2 x 10^-18 MeV
Shouldn't that be 10*10-15? :wink:
 
Hootenanny said:
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Thanks.

Hootenanny said:
Shouldn't that be 10*10-15? :wink:



I tried that the first time I did the problem, and realized 10 x 10^-15 is in meters. Wouldn't I need the wavelength to be in nm? So it would be 1 x 10^-5 nm.
 
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vspectra said:
I tried that the first time I did the problem, and realized 10 x 10^-15 is in meters. Wouldn't I need the wavelength to be in nm? So it would be 1 x 10^-5 nm.
Why would you want it in nm? If you want your output velocity to be in m/s, then all your inputs must be in SI units.
 
Ah, you're right, silly me. I was looking at another example which was basically the same question, and to me it looked like they converted from angstroms to nanometers for wavelength. It was actually converted to meters.

Thanks!
 


Hey thanks both of u :) i made the same mistake :p
 
The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

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