Finding Kinetic Energy of Person Spinning on Chair w/ Weights

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The discussion revolves around calculating the kinetic energy change of a person spinning on a chair while holding weights, specifically when the weights are moved from an extended position to a closer position. The subject area includes concepts of rotational dynamics and kinetic energy.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of the kinetic energy formula for rotational motion and the implications of changing the moment of inertia when the weights are repositioned. There is a focus on the initial and final angular velocities and the moment of inertia values provided in the problem.

Discussion Status

Some participants have attempted calculations based on the provided values, while others question the assumption that the moment of inertia remains constant despite changes in the radius of the weights. There is a recognition of the need to clarify the problem statement and the parameters involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem specifies to assume a constant moment of inertia, despite the physical implications of changing the radius of the weights. This assumption is under scrutiny as participants explore the effects on angular velocity and kinetic energy.

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How do you find the Kinetic Energy of a person spinning on a chair with 2 equal weights on each arm?

A specific problem asks what the change in KE is if he moves his originally extended arms inward.

I tried doing (1/2)(I)(wf)^2 - (1/2)(I)(wi)^2 where wi is initial angular velocity and wf is final angular velocity, but its wrong.

Any help?
 
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What numbers/variables do they give?
 
Ahh, sorry, I suppose I should have included this information in the main thread. My bad.

Well I is the same for initial and final, which is 8. Therefore,

Initial I = 8
Final I = 8
Initial w = .7
Final w = 1.15

So I did:

(1/2)(I)(wf)^2 - (1/2)(I)(wi)^2
= (1/2)(8)(1.15)^2 - (1/2)(8)(.7)^2
= 5.31118 - 1.96
= 3.35118116 j

...but apparently it's wrong.
 
I can't be the same initial and final... if he brings his arms in the moment of inertia changes. post the question exacty as it is stated...
 
Alright. But just fyi, I know it can't be the same I because the r changes, but the problem says to just assume its the same. I used the same I for initial and final to get the wf, and it was correct, so i know I is same initial and final. Anyways, here's the problem:


A student sits on a rotating stool holding two
3 kg objects. When his arms are extended
horizontally, the objects are 1 m from the axis
of rotation, and he rotates with angular speed
of 0.7 rad/sec. The moment of inertia of the
student plus the stool is 8 kgm^2 and is assumed
to be constant. The student then pulls
the objects horizontally to a radius 0.29 m
from the rotation axis.

a) Calculate the final angular speed of the
student. Answer in units of rad/s.
(The answer to this part is 1.15232 rad/s)

b) Calculate the change in kinetic energy of the
system. Answer in units of J.
 

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