Finding Max & Min of f & g: A Comparison

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This discussion focuses on the mathematical concepts of maximum and minimum functions defined as f ∨ g(x) = max(f(x), g(x)) and f ∧ g(x) = min(f(x), g(x)) for functions f and g over the interval [a, b]. The participants explore the definitions of f_{+} = f ∨ 0 and f_{-} = -(f ∧ 0), ultimately demonstrating that f can be expressed as f = f_{+} - f_{-} and the absolute value of f as |f| = f_{+} + f_{-}. The discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding these definitions and their applications in graphing specific functions like f(x) = sin(x) and g(x) = cos(x).

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  • Understanding of real-valued functions defined on intervals, specifically [a, b].
  • Familiarity with the concepts of supremum and infimum in mathematical analysis.
  • Knowledge of piecewise functions and their graphical representations.
  • Basic understanding of function transformations, including max and min operations.
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  • Study the properties of supremum and infimum in real analysis.
  • Learn how to graph piecewise functions and their maximum and minimum values.
  • Explore the implications of defining functions using f_{+} and f_{-} in various contexts.
  • Investigate specific examples of functions to apply the concepts of f ∨ g and f ∧ g.
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Students and educators in mathematics, particularly those studying real analysis, calculus, or advanced algebra, will benefit from this discussion. It is also valuable for anyone looking to deepen their understanding of function behavior and graphical analysis.

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Homework Statement



(a) Let f,g: [a,b] \rightarrow \Re.

Define: f \vee g(x) = max(f(x),g(x)), x\in [a,b]
f \wedge g(x) = min(f(x),g(x)), x\in [a,b]

(b) Let f_{+} = f\vee0, f_{-} = -(f\wedge0)
Show that: f = f_{+} - f_{-}
abs value of f = f_{+} + f_{-}

Homework Equations



f_{+}, f_{-} \geq 0

The Attempt at a Solution



(a) f \vee g(x) equals the supremum and infimum for f \wedge g(x). Supremum would be "b" for both f and g, and infimum of both would be "a"??

(b) Lost with this one. It relates to the first question I know, but trying to put them together hasn't been working.
 
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jdz86 said:

Homework Statement



(a) Let f,g: [a,b] \rightarrow \Re.

Define: f \vee g(x) = max(f(x),g(x)), x\in [a,b]
f \wedge g(x) = min(f(x),g(x)), x\in [a,b]

(b) Let f_{+} = f\vee0, f_{-} = -(f\wedge0)
Show that: f = f_{+} - f_{-}
abs value of f = f_{+} + f_{-}

Homework Equations



f_{+}, f_{-} \geq 0

The Attempt at a Solution



(a) f \vee g(x) equals the supremum and infimum for f \wedge g(x). Supremum would be "b" for both f and g, and infimum of both would be "a"??
NO, of course not. a and b are the smallest and largest values of x. Your functions are defined as inf and sup of f(x) and g(x), the function values.
What exactly are you trying to do here? In (a) you are given two definitions but I see no question!

(b) Lost with this one. It relates to the first question I know, but trying to put them together hasn't been working.
Again, what was the first question? What is f+- f- and f++ f- for individual values of x? Try looking at specific f and g functions. Suppose f(x)= 2x, g(x)= x. What are f+ and f-?
 
yep, definitely wrote it wrong, (a) was what was given, thought it was a question.

the question was something like this: using what was given, graph each of the following on the given axis, f(x),g(x), f \wedge
g, f \vee g:
f(x)=sinx, g(x)=cosx, x in [0,2pi] and graph f(x)=x(x-1)(x-2)(x-3), g(x)=0, x in [0,3]

and then (b) above was correct, using what was defined show that
 
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