Finding Maximum Deflection of Bending Curve

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the maximum deflection of a beam described by a bending curve equation. Participants explore the mathematical approach to determine the position along the beam where maximum deflection occurs, involving concepts from differential calculus and bending theory.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that to find the maximum deflection, one must set w'(0) = 0, questioning how to factorize the heaviside function in the bending curve equation.
  • Another participant corrects this by stating that the correct approach is to set w'(x) = 0 to find the position of maximum deflection, not w'(0) = 0.
  • A participant mentions the complexity of expanding the bending curve equation and doubts the feasibility of solving for x during an examination.
  • There is a suggestion that observing the moment diagram M(x) could help predict the position of maximum deflection.
  • One participant expresses a need for resources to learn about drawing bending moment diagrams, indicating a gap in understanding the graphical representation of the problem.
  • Another participant offers to share prepared shear and bending moment diagrams, noting that the maximum bending moment occurs at x = l/2, which could be relevant for determining maximum deflection.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the method to find the maximum deflection, with some advocating for setting w'(0) = 0 and others correcting this to w'(x) = 0. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to factorize the heaviside function and the complexity of the calculations involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the bending curve equation involves complexities that may not be suitable for examination settings, and there are unresolved issues regarding the correct application of differential calculus in this context.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students studying beam deflection, mechanics of materials, and those seeking to understand the application of differential calculus in engineering problems.

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if i have a bending curve eqn of w'(x) = (q/6)<x-l>^3 - ql/4 <x-0>^3 - 3ql/4 <x-l>^2 + (9ql^3)/24

suppose to find the deflection of maximum of the beam, we have to set w'(0)=0 .Am i right??

then if it is right,how can i find the value for x on which the max bending occur because i don't know how to factorize the heaviside function such as <x-l>^3


anybody pls help
thanx
 
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if [itex]\nu[/itex] represents the deflection function then

[tex]\nu (x) = f(x)[/tex]

therefore by using you knowledge on differential calculus, in order to look for a max or min you must differentiate [itex]\nu (x)[/itex] (coincidentially the rotational angle or slope) and set it to 0, find the x and substitute in your deflection function. This is the way for the integration of the deflection differential equation.
 
ya,that's exactly what i stated above.But,i don't know how to find x as ican't find a way to factorize

pls show me
thanx
 
In the attachment above I stated that it is not necessary to find the x and I stated the reasons and also an alternative to solve it. Didn't you read it, teng125?
 
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All right then, I rewrite it here.

I have corrected your original bending curve by inserting the factor of 1/EI where EI is the bending stiffness of the beam I assumed.

[tex]w'(x)=\frac{1}{EI}[\frac{q_{0}}{6}(x-l)^3-\frac{q_{0}l}{4}(x-l)^3-\frac{3q_{0}l}{4}(x-l)^2+\frac{9q_{0}l^3}{24}][/tex]

To find the position along the beam at which the deflection is maximum, w' (x) = 0, NOT w' (0) = 0.



Hence, expanding the unitstep or heaviside functions as if they were normal polynomial functions gives

[tex]w'(x)=\frac{1}{EI}[\frac{q_{0}}{6}(x-l)^3-\frac{q_{0}l}{4}(x-l)^3-\frac{3q_{0}l}{4}(x-l)^2+\frac{9q_{0}l^3}{24}][/tex]

[tex]= \frac{1}{EI}[\frac{q_{0}{6}(x^3-l^3+2l^2x-2lx^2)-\frac{q_{0}l}{4}(x^3\mbox{...})\mbox{...}[/tex]

[tex]=\mbox{...}[/tex]

As you can imagine, it is very complicated. I doubt you would have time solving for x in the examination.



However, you can predict the position along the beam at which the deflection is maximum by observing the moment diagram M(x). Just look at the stationary point(s) and the corresponding position x yields the maximum deflection.

Anyway, our professor has told us that this kind of problem will not be asked in the examination. If it were asked, you just need to write

[tex]w'(x)=\frac{1}{EI}[\frac{q_{0}}{6}(x-l)^3-\frac{q_{0}l}{4}(x-l)^3-\frac{3q_{0}l}{4}(x-l)^2+\frac{9q_{0}l^3}{24}]=0[/tex]
solving for x gives the position along the beam at which maximum deflection occurs.

for the examination is to test your knowledge and skills in mechanics, not elementary pure mathematics (leave this task to the mathematicians).


some of the latex appears to be incorrect, they refuse show what I wanted to display.
 
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okok...thanx very much...besides,do u know any websites or materials that shows or teach students how to draw bending moment diagrams for the chapter above??
 
Refer to your lecture or exercise notes perhaps? If you have time, you can make a small table listing all the key points. For example:

Code:
   x	| V(X)	|  M(x)	|
	|	|	|
-------------------------
   l	| 1/2ql	| ql^2	|
	|	|	|
-------------------------
  2l	| ... 	| ...	|
	|	|	|
-------------------------
 3/2l   | ...	| ...	|
	|	|	|
-------------------------

By identifying the nature of the functions within each segment ((1/2)l, l, 2l etc), that is to check if they are linear, quadratic or cubic, then plot the curve. Of course, you will have to know the basic shape of the curves of each type of function.
 
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for the basic shape of the curves of each type of function, do u have any materials for them??or any recommended websites??

thanx
 
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I hope that you were joking. You know the linear (a line), quadratic curves and cubic curves, don't you?

Anyway, I have prepared the shear and bending moment diagrams for the present problem. As you expected, they are piecewise-connected functions due to the fact that you have defined them using unitstep/singularity/heaviside functions.

Shear Force, V(x)
Shear_Diagram_1.jpg


Bending Moment, M(x)
Bending_Moment_Diagram_1.jpg


Note that the y-axis of the moment diagram is reflected about the x-axis by convention. Now you see that the maximum bending moment occurs at [tex]x=\frac{l}{2}[/tex]. Hence, inserting this value of [tex]x[/tex] into the deflection line/curve above yields the maximum deflection.
 

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