Maximum Deflection of Brass Beam: Troubleshooting Homework Solution

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the maximum deflection of a brass beam based on theoretical and experimental readings. Participants are troubleshooting discrepancies between their theoretical calculations and physical measurements, focusing on the moment of inertia and beam dimensions.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a formula for maximum deflection and provides specific values for load and distance, but questions the moment of inertia calculation.
  • Another participant requests additional information about the beam's support, dimensions, and cross-section orientation to better analyze the problem.
  • Clarifications are made regarding the dimensions of the beam, with one participant noting that the initial inertia calculation seems to suggest unusual dimensions for the cross-section.
  • There is a correction regarding the moment of inertia calculation, emphasizing that it should be based on the cross-section normal to the length axis.
  • One participant expresses gratitude for the clarification regarding the moment of inertia calculation.
  • A participant questions whether the correct dimension for 'b' in the inertia calculation should be 19.02 mm instead of the previously used value.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct moment of inertia calculation, and there are multiple competing views regarding the appropriate dimensions to use. The discussion remains unresolved as participants seek further clarification and corrections.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the provided data, including missing assumptions about the beam's support and orientation, as well as potential misunderstandings regarding the dimensions used in calculations.

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Homework Statement


I am trying to find the maximum deflection in a brass beam, however after taking a physical reading the theoretical answer I get is quite off and I am wondering what I am doing wrong.

Homework Equations


They tell us the max deflection is( Load*Length^3)/(48*E*Second Moment of Area)
They also give us that E = 105GPA for brass

The Attempt at a Solution


The mass was 100g so load = 0.98N
Distance is 0.4 m
The problem I have is finding the correct moment of area as I think this is were I am getting it wrong. I have seen that for a rectangle it would be b*h^3/12
Then I = 0.4*0.00318^/12 = 1.07e-9 m^4
Putting this all together I get 11.63e-6m = 0.0116mm
The physical answer I got was 0.29mm.
Any ideas on what I am getting wrong
 
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Jonski said:

Homework Statement


I am trying to find the maximum deflection in a brass beam, however after taking a physical reading the theoretical answer I get is quite off and I am wondering what I am doing wrong.

Homework Equations


They tell us the max deflection is( Load*Length^3)/(48*E*Second Moment of Area)
They also give us that E = 105GPA for brass

The Attempt at a Solution


The mass was 100g so load = 0.98N
Distance is 0.4 m
The problem I have is finding the correct moment of area as I think this is were I am getting it wrong. I have seen that for a rectangle it would be b*h^3/12
Then I = 0.4*0.00318^/12 = 1.07e-9 m^4
Putting this all together I get 11.63e-6m = 0.0116mm
The physical answer I got was 0.29mm.
Any ideas on what I am getting wrong
Well, you provide some data, but not all which is necessary to analyze this problem.

How was the beam supported?
What were the dimensions of the beam (LxBxD)?
How was the cross section oriented with respect to the load?

Your inertia calculation suggests this beam was 40 cm wide and 3.18 mm thick. That's a very odd set of dimensions for the cross section, almost as if this beam were a strip of brass.
 
SteamKing said:
Well, you provide some data, but not all which is necessary to analyze this problem.

How was the beam supported?
What were the dimensions of the beam (LxBxD)?
How was the cross section oriented with respect to the load?

Your inertia calculation suggests this beam was 40 cm wide and 3.18 mm thick. That's a very odd set of dimensions for the cross section, almost as if this beam were a strip of brass.

The cross section of the beam was 400mm long 3.18mm height and 19.02mm deep
The set up is shown below
 

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Jonski said:
The cross section of the beam was 400mm long 3.18mm height and 19.02mm deep
The set up is shown below
You used the wrong dimensions in the inertia calculation. The I is calculated for the cross section of the beam, which is normal to the length axis.


section2.png


The moment of inertia for the beam in the figure above is I = ba3 / 12
 
SteamKing said:
You used the wrong dimensions in the inertia calculation. The I is calculated for the cross section of the beam, which is normal to the length axis.


section2.png


The moment of inertia for the beam in the figure above is I = ba3 / 12
Thanks, this really helped a lot
 
Jonski said:
The problem I have is finding the correct moment of area as I think this is were I am getting it wrong. I have seen that for a rectangle it would be b*h^3/12
Then I = 0.4*0.00318^/12 = 1.07e-9 m^4
Isn't b equal to 19.02 mm??
 

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