Finding Minimum Value with Mathematica

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the minimum value of a mathematical expression involving variables Δ and t using Mathematica. The focus is on the implications of constants n and T, as well as the behavior of the function as it approaches certain limits.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Mathematical reasoning, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a mathematical expression for ∂ω2 and seeks assistance in using Mathematica to find minimum values for Δ and t.
  • Another participant suggests that the signs of n and T affect the sign of the result, indicating that without knowing these signs, the minimum cannot be determined.
  • There is a clarification request regarding the significance of the signs of n and T.
  • It is noted that if n*T is negative, the function's behavior would change, flipping minima to maxima.
  • One participant asserts that since n and T are positive integers, they can be ignored in the analysis, focusing instead on the expression involving E^(2 gamma[t]) Csc[delta t]^2 - Cot[delta t]^2.
  • Another participant speculates that if E^(2 gamma[t]) can be less than 1 when delta t equals Pi, the minimum could potentially be -Infinity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the significance of the constants n and T, with some asserting they can be ignored while others emphasize their importance in determining the function's behavior. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these constants on finding the minimum value.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the positivity of n and T, and the implications of their signs on the function's behavior are not fully resolved. There is also uncertainty regarding the behavior of the function as it approaches certain limits.

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∂ω2 = (1-cos2(Δt)e-2γ(t))/(nTtsin2(Δt)e-2γ(t))

n,T are assumed as constants. How can I use Mathematica to find the values of Δ and t that will give the minimum values for ∂ω2 ?
 
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If I use Expand on your function I get

1/(n T t)((E^(2 gamma[t]) Csc[delta t]^2 - Cot[delta t]^2)

Without knowing the signs of n and T we can't know the sign of the result and can't know minimum.

Both Csc^2 and Cot^2 go to infinity at multiples of Pi. Depending on what your gamma function is, either the term with Csc or Cot will win the race to infinity and I believe you can determine the minimum by inspection.
 
What do you mean with sign of n and T ?
 
aredy29 said:
What do you mean with sign of n and T ?

If n*T is negative the whole function will be flipped upside down, what was a minimum would be a maximum, etc.
 
n and T are integers and always positive.
 
aredy29 said:
n and T are integers and always positive.

Then I believe, if you can verify the result from Expand, that n and T can be ignored and you focus on

E^(2 gamma[t]) Csc[delta t]^2 - Cot[delta t]^2

If E^(2 gamma[t]) can be < 1 when delta t=Pi then the minimum appears to be -Infinity.
 

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