Finding Optimal Angles for Projectile Motion Using Kinematics and 2D Vectors

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The problem involves determining the optimal angles of elevation for a projectile to hit a specific target using the kinematics of particles and 2D vectors. The initial velocity is given as 400 m/s, and the target coordinates are specified as (5 km, 1.5 km).

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  • Participants discuss the equations of motion relevant to projectile motion, including the relationships between horizontal and vertical components of velocity and displacement. There is an exploration of how to derive a quadratic equation from the projectile motion equations.

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Some participants have provided guidance on breaking down the problem into manageable steps and have shared their attempts at formulating the equations needed to find the angles. There appears to be a productive exchange of ideas, with some participants expressing uncertainty about how to proceed with the calculations.

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This problems has given me a lot of difficulty even asking several people. Kinematics of Particles using 2D vectors.

v(initial) = 400 m/s. Determine two angles of elevation (theta) which will permit the projectile to hit the mountain target at B = (5 km)i+(1.5 km)j.

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With difficult questions, go one step at a time …

First step: what equations do you know that might help here? :smile:
 
I know that
vx0=400cos(theta)
vy0=400sin(theta)

and integrating..v=dx/dt

x = 400tcos(theta)
y = 400tsin(theta)

and from here I'm clueless as where to go. Thanks.
 
x = v0*cos(θ)*t, so t = x/(v0*cos(θ))
y = v0*sin(θ)*t - 1/2 g*t^2,
y = x*tan(θ) - 1/2 g*x^2/(v0*cos(θ))^2
use 1/(cos(θ))^2 = (sec(θ))^2 = 1 + (tan(θ))^2
y = x*tan(θ) - 1/2 g*x^2/v0^2 - 1/2 g*x^2*(tan(θ))^2/v0^2
then we get a quadratic equation for tan(θ) that is, (after plug all known values)
765.63(tan(θ))^2 - 5000tan(θ) + 2265.63 = 0
use quadratic formula and get
tan(θ) = 6.0407, so θ = 80.6 degrees
tan(θ) = 0.48987, so θ = 26.1 degrees
 
Thanks a lot Simon, i did basically exactly that, but didn't know how to turn it into a quadratic, too many terms all over the place.
 

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