Finding perpendicular force on incline plane.

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The problem involves determining the minimum perpendicular force required to prevent a box from sliding down a 35-degree inclined plane, given the mass of the box and the coefficient of static friction. Participants are discussing the forces acting on the box and how to calculate the normal force and frictional force.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are attempting to resolve forces acting on the box both parallel and perpendicular to the incline. There is discussion about the relationship between the normal force and the applied force, as well as the frictional force. Questions arise regarding the calculations and the interpretation of the forces involved.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the forces at play. Some guidance has been provided regarding the equations for normal and frictional forces, but there is no explicit consensus on the calculations or the correct approach to take.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information available or the methods they can use. There is also a mention of a free body diagram, which may influence their understanding of the forces involved.

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Homework Statement


I'm having a lot of trouble trying to figure out this problem, any help would be great.
The coefficient of static friction between a 3 Kg box and a 35 degree incline ramp is 0.3. What minimum force F perpendicular to the incline must be applied to the box to prevent it from sidling down the incline?. Draw the free body diagram of the system. Show all your work.

Here is the free body diagram.

incline.gif


Homework Equations


part. b was find the minimum force F parallel.


The Attempt at a Solution


I found out that the perpendicular force is = to the normal force. I used the sum of all forces to come up with N= mgcosθ. I also looked up some info on a different site and found this, which really confused me. I'm not quite sure where to take this.
u=.3
Fr=uN.
n-normal force
you need aply 55.39N of normal force.
parall force would be 16.863-.9=15.96.
working:
jus resolve the gravity force par&per to inclined plane.
0.9 is force that friction provoids.u can do it usin abv formula.
after resolvin force,u will find out force parallel to inc plane is 16.863.
so need 16.863-0.9 horizontal force.
in case of perpendicular force,
you need fig out what is the normal force which can make friction force equal's 16.863
16.863-.819=0.3*(X);
 
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Let's keep this simple ,

As you have done I shall start by resolving everything parallel and perpendicular to the plane.

As show in the fig, the external force is F

On the incline, the Normal force will at act perpendicularly, and in this case will have to be equal to the total force exerted by the block on the planenin the perpendicular direction.

Hence, N = F + mgcos(35)

And now use frictional force = 0.3(N)
 
So then the parallel force would be N = F + mgsin(35)?, use 0.3(N)? what would be the total F? i see in the example it is 55.39n, I am not getting that. Thanks a lot!
 
For the parallel forces, mgsin(35) = friction.
 

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