Finding Point P on Plane S: A Reflective Approach

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The problem involves finding a point P on the plane defined by the equation x+y+z=8, such that a line from point A(6,5,3) reflects off the plane at P and passes through point B(10,5,-1). The discussion centers around the geometric and reflective properties related to the plane and the points.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to use the concept of angle of incidence equaling the angle of reflection, suggesting that the normal vector to the plane should bisect the angles formed by vectors from A and B to P. Some participants question the distances of points A and B from the plane and whether they are equal, prompting a re-evaluation of the calculations and assumptions made.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the geometric relationships and distances involved in the problem. There is an ongoing examination of the distances from points A and B to the plane, with some guidance offered to draw diagrams for better visualization. The discussion is active, with various interpretations being considered.

Contextual Notes

There appears to be confusion regarding the calculations of distances from points A and B to the plane, with differing values reported. This discrepancy raises questions about the assumptions made in the approach to finding point P.

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Homework Statement


Given a plane S: x+y+z=8 and two points A(6,5,3) and B(10,5,-1), find the point P on plane S such that a line from point A bounces off of the plane S at point P and passes through point B.


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If I know that the angle of incidence = the angle of reflectance, then I can also say that a normal vector from plane S bisects will these two points at point P. So if I can proove that the angle between vectors AP and n is the same as the angle between vectors BP and n then this should solve my problem. Well, this is what I tried to show at least, and did not come up with the angle between the two vectors to be the same.

I found my normal vector n to be <1,1,1> and I took my point P to be (8,0,0). So, from there, I found vectors AP and BP to be <2,-5,-3> and <-2,-5,1> respectively.

Any help on which direction to go towards next would be a great help! Thank you!
 
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Points A and B are in fact the same distance from plane S. (Can you show this?)

Draw a diagram reflecting this, and add point P to the diagram. What do you realize?
 
I worked out the distances to be different than each other. To find the distance of points A and B from plane S, i first found a point on plane S to reference from, call it Q. So, to find the distance of point A from plane S, i found:

h1 = |QA - proj (QA on n)|, where n is the normal vector for plane S.

I came up with a value of ~32.4.

to find the distance of point B from plane S, i found:

h2 = |QB - proj (QB on n)|, where again, n is the normal vector for plane S.

I came up with a value of ~134.28.

What happened? If I don't have the same height, how can I relate the two angles to each other?
 
Shouldn't it be [tex]h_{1} =\ \mid proj\ (\ QA\ on\ n\ ) \mid[/tex]?

Try drawing a diagram, it should help.
 
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