Distance from a point to a plane

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The discussion revolves around calculating the distance from a point to a plane, specifically addressing the mathematical formulation and methods involved in determining this distance. The problem involves understanding the geometric relationships between a point and a plane defined by a parametric equation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss various methods to find the distance, including using derivatives and normal vectors. Questions arise about the effectiveness and simplicity of different approaches, such as projection methods versus derivative-based methods.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of different methods to calculate the distance, with some participants suggesting alternative approaches. Clarifications are being made regarding the use of vectors and projections, but no consensus has been reached on a single method.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express confusion about the implications of using different mathematical operations, such as the cross product versus the dot product, in the context of this problem. There is also mention of the need to minimize certain expressions, indicating potential complexities in the calculations involved.

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Homework Statement


What is the distance from the point P to the plane S?

Homework Equations


## S = \left \{ r_{0} + s(u_{1},u_{2},u_{3})+t(v_{1},v_{2},v_{3}) | s,t \in \mathbb{R} \right \} ##

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I found an expression for the general distance between point P and a point on S, then found an expression for the distance and took the partial derivatives , ## \frac{\partial r}{\partial s} ## and ## \frac{\partial r}{\partial t}## (both of the argument of the square root function) and set both to zero, then solved the resulting linear equations. Is this the right method?
 
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It will work, but there is an easier way to do it by finding a normal vector of the plane and projecting the difference vector between the point and any point in the plane on it.
 
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Orodruin said:
It will work, but there is an easier way to do it by finding a normal vector of the plane and projecting the difference vector between the point and any point in the plane on it.
Wouldn't that just give me another vector in terms of x, y and z that I'd have to minimize?
 
GwtBc said:
Wouldn't that just give me another vector in terms of x, y and z that I'd have to minimize?
No. It gives you the difference vector between the point and the closest point in the plane. You get the distance by computing its magnitude. (Note the projection part of the procedure!)
 
Orodruin said:
No. It gives you the difference vector between the point and the closest point in the plane. You get the distance by computing its magnitude. (Note the projection part of the procedure!)
Got it. Thanks for the help.
 
Equivalently, if ##\vec V## is a vector from P to any point Q on the plane, and ##\hat n## is a unit normal to the plane, then$$|\vec V \times \hat n| = |\vec V|\cdot 1 \cdot \sin\theta = d$$so all you have to remember is to take the magnitude of ##\vec V \times \hat n##.
Edit, added: Please ignore this post. This method works for finding the distance from a point to a line, where ##\hat n## is a unit direction vector along the line.
 
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LCKurtz said:
Equivalently, if ##\vec V## is a vector from P to any point Q on the plane, and ##\hat n## is a unit normal to the plane, then$$|\vec V \times \hat n| = |\vec V|\cdot 1 \cdot \sin\theta = d$$so all you have to remember is to take the magnitude of ##\vec V \times \hat n##.
This is not equivalent. You want ##\vec V\cdot \hat n##. The cross product you quote is also dependent on which point in the plane you chose.
 
Orodruin said:
This is not equivalent. You want ##\vec V\cdot \hat n##. The cross product you quote is also dependent on which point in the plane you chose.

You're correct of course. I must have posted that before I was fully awake.
 

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