Finding Second and Third Derivative from Graph

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves finding the first, second, and third derivatives of a function g at specific points based on the graph of another function f. The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to derive the second and third derivatives from the graph provided.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between g and f, noting that g'(2) can be directly evaluated from f(2). There are questions about how to determine g''(2) and g'''(4) from the graph, particularly regarding the derivatives of f.

Discussion Status

Some participants suggest integrating the function g over specified intervals to better understand its behavior and differentiability. Others note that the graph provides a complete description of f, indicating a need to translate visual information into mathematical expressions. There is acknowledgment of complications due to features of the graph, such as sharp curves affecting the existence of certain derivatives.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the challenge of interpreting a graph to find derivatives, with specific attention to points where the function may not be differentiable. The discussion reflects on the implications of the graph's characteristics on the derivatives being sought.

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Homework Statement



The problem asks to find g'(2), g''(2), and g'''(4).

Homework Equations

and attempt at solution[/B]

The derivative of g(x) is just the function f(x). So g'(2) = f(2) = -2.

I'm not sure how to find g''(2) and g'''(4).
I understand that g''(2) is f'(2), but how do I find the derivative of f from this graph? Same question for g'''(4) = f''(4).
 

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Why don't you simply compute ##g(x)\,##? Just integrate for ##1 \leq x \leq 2## then for ##2 \leq x \leq 3\, , \,3\leq x \leq 4## and ##4\leq x \leq 5\,.## After this you could draw this function and see whether and where it is differentiable and what the values are.
 
a1234 said:

Homework Statement



The problem asks to find g'(2), g''(2), and g'''(4).

Homework Equations

and attempt at solution[/B]

The derivative of g(x) is just the function f(x). So g'(2) = f(2) = -2.

I'm not sure how to find g''(2) and g'''(4).
I understand that g''(2) is f'(2), but how do I find the derivative of f from this graph? Same question for g'''(4) = f''(4).

The graph gives a complete and exact description of the function ##f(x)##. You just need to translate the given information into formulas.
 
I think I'm getting somewhere...
g''(2) = f'(2) is DNE because of the sharp curve, where the tangent line is a vertical line.
g'''(4) = f''(4) is 0 because the first derivative is a constant and the second is 0.
 

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