Finding Solutions for Function F(x): Perpendicular Tangents & Slopes

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The discussion revolves around finding values of t for the function F(x) = kx^2 + 3, such that the tangent lines at points (t, F(t)) and (-t, F(-t)) are perpendicular. Participants explore the implications of their calculations and the nature of the solutions, particularly regarding the slopes and intersection points of the tangent lines.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the choice of positive versus negative roots for t and its implications on the tangent lines. Questions arise about the legitimacy of algebraic manipulations and the interpretation of results, especially regarding the nature of the intersection points.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the relationship between the values of t and k, with some participants suggesting graphing to visualize the results. Guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of slopes and the effects of choosing different roots, but no consensus has been reached on the best approach for presenting the findings.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework guidelines, which may influence how they present their findings, particularly in relation to assumptions made about the values of t and k.

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Hi All.

Homework Statement



Consider the function F(x) = kx^2 + 3.

a.) If the tangent lines to the graph of F at (t, F(t) ) and (-t , F(-t)) are perpendicular, find t in terms of k.

b) Find the slopes of the tangent lines mentioned in part (a).

c.) Find the coordinates of the point of intersection of the tangent lines mentioned in part (a).


Homework Equations



1.) First Derivative
2.) Algebraic Manipulation

The Attempt at a Solution



I need to verify my answers. I HAVE SCANNED ALL OF MY ANSWERS SO YOU CAN READ IT EASIER. http://carlodm.com/calc/prob1.jpg .[/URL]

Here are my questions:


For a.) I got t = +- sqrt( 1 / 4k^2)). I chose the positive root but is this correct? I mean, I chose the positive root to make my calculations simpler but is there a good reason why to choose the positive, or negative?

For b.) Is this algebraic manipulation legitimate?

For c.) This seems a little weird for me considering its not a "finite" answer. Does this answer work? Thank you!
 
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Regarding your answer for a), fix k (and therefore t) see what positive and negative answers give you. Try graphing them.

Now take a look at b), you basically have 2 tangent lines L1 and L2, if you pick t = 1/(2k) then the slope of L1 is 1 and slope of L2 is -1. Now what would have happened if you chose t = -1/(2k)?

For c) your answer is very much finite, it's just a function of k, why does that seem weird to you? Your original function did not specify a k therefore your tangent lines will be dependent on k as well, as will the point of their intersesction.
 
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NoMoreExams,

Thanks for the quick reply. I'm dumbfounded by your explanation in a.). How can I "Fix k?" Is there an Algebra error? Or are you trying to say to graph t in terms of k and look at the graph?

If it's the latter, I graphed that solution curve. It looks like a diamond shaped curve, but I don't know what I can deduce from this curve.

Fot b.)... I understand that if t is the negative root...then the direction of the tangent lines will be opposite (negative slope of tangent will become the positive slope).

Thank you.
 


By fix k I mean pick a value for k, say... k = 1, now graph your function and your 2 lines. Your function shouldn't look diamond shaped.
 


I see. I let k = 5. so F(x) = 5x^2 + 3 and F'(x) = 10x.

When I finish the Algebra, I'm left with t = +- (1/10). Which is equivalent to what I found in my answer in a.).

The graph is two lines. This just proves that it's correct, right?
 


Sure I meant plot both your two tangent lines AND your original function. Now that you fixed k = 5, pick the positive root i.e. t = 1/10 that means your first tangent line will have a point (1/10, F(1/10)) and your 2nd one will have the point (-1/10, F(-1/10)). What if you picked t = -1/10, what would have changed between 2 lines, would they have looked any different?
 


No it does not look any different meaning choosing the positive or negative t will give the same results.

Should I explicitly state that we are "assuming" that t is the positive root for AP purposes?

Thanks for your help--for b) and c) are my answers logical?
 


You should probably explain that choosing either will give the same result since you are just switching between the 2 lines I believe. Maybe someone else can confirm/deny.

Yep b) and c) look logical to me, did you understand what I said about c) though?

I am not sure what the standards are for AP exams so I can't tell you if what you have is "enough" or if you need to write more. You definitely should not write +/- 1/(2k) = 1/(2k) since that's simply not true; you COULD write w.l.og., let t = 1/(2k) or something of the sort and explain why.
 


Thank you NoMoreExams! Part c.) Makes perfect sense.

I have one last question. What does "w.l.og" stand for?
 
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without loss of generality
 

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