Finding tension in a wire in our static equilibrium unit

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The discussion centers on calculating the tension in a wire suspended between two telephone poles, with a 0.5 kg bird causing a sag of 2 meters at the midpoint. The correct tension in the wire is determined using torque equations, leading to a calculated tension of 49 N. Some participants mistakenly suggest dividing this value by 2, which would only represent the tension in half of the wire. The assumption of a horizontal wire simplifies the problem, allowing for the application of the equation 2Tsin(θ) = mg, where θ is derived from the geometry of the sag.

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This is the final question on a static equilibrium quiz i had today (physics 12). when comparing answers (as you tend to do after the quiz "did you get x for question y?"), half of my friends (all of equal ability in the course) got a different answer from me, and the other half the same. I am wondering if i have done this correctly.

Homework Statement


a wire is suspended by 2 telephone poles 40m apart. a 0.5kg bird lands directly at the midpoint of the wire, causing it to sag 2m below the original height. what is the tension in the wire.
bird mass = 0.5kg
wire length = 40m
wire displacement at center = 2m

Homework Equations


\tau=F(r\sin{\theta})
\tau=F\times r\bot

The Attempt at a Solution


I figured I wouldn't need θ, because I already have the leaver arm (r⊥). calculating both of these (x-axis as r⊥ and y-axis as F, and vice-versa respectively) should each yield a value with the units in m∙N (torque). Am I correct in assuming these torques will be equal (or opposite?)

Right half of wire freebody diagrams (only components pictured, no hypotenuse drawn):
___________20m___________ (distance : r⊥)
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| 0.5kg∙9.8m/s² = 4.9N (force : F)
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|

____________T____________ (force : F)
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| 2m (distance : r⊥)
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|


4.9N \times 20m = T \times 2m
\frac{4.9N \times 20m}{2m} = T
49N = T


others in my class insist that i should have divided 49N by 2, but wouldn't that be finding the tension in just half of the wire?
or have i made assumptions that just don't work (using torque to solve the question to begin with, which is where i suspect i may have went wrong) elsewhere in my work?

thank you very much for your help.
 
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I was stumped at first, but now realize you assume the wire is horizontal to begin with when its shape is that of a catenary, see,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catenary

but if we simplify the problem and assume the wire is horizontal then,

2Tsin(theta) = mg

where theta = inverse tangent(.1)

I think your answer is off by a factor of two. Draw a free body diagram of the situation.
 

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