Finding Tension is three cables attached to a particular mass?

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The problem involves determining the tensions in three cables supporting a mass. The context is related to static equilibrium and forces acting on the mass, with specific focus on the tension values and their components.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of horizontal components of tension and the relationships between the tensions using trigonometric functions. There are questions regarding the equality of horizontal components for different tensions and the application of Newton's laws to solve for unknown tensions.

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Some participants have provided calculations and attempted to clarify the relationships between the tensions. There is ongoing exploration of methods to derive the unknown tensions, with some participants expressing confusion about their approaches and seeking further guidance.

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Homework Statement


An object of mass m is suspended from a cable tied to two other cables, each fastened to a supporting beam, as shown below. The tensions in the three supporting cables are T1, T2, and T3. The diagram of the system is available via the link below:

http://i40.tinypic.com/15goxg3.jpg

The tension T1 = 1800 N.

I worked out the first three parts, but could not work out parts d) and e)
(a) Determine the horizontal component of T1.
(b) Determine the horizontal component of T2.
(c) Determine the tension T2.
(d) Determine the tension T3.
(e) Determine the mass of the suspended object.


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The Attempt at a Solution


(a) Determine the horizontal component of T1.
Th = 1800cos(60) = 900N
(b) Determine the horizontal component of T2.
Th = 1800cos(60) = 900N (The same component for T2) - The only thing is I do not understand why this is the same - I only knew to calculate it the same because I have the answers given.
(c) Determine the tension T2.
T2 = 900/cos(40) = 1175N

Any help would be appreciated greatly
 
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T1/sin40=T2/sin60=T3/sin 80
you can work out the T3 tension from this equality.and it is easily seen from figure mass m equals T3.
 
savva said:
(a) Determine the horizontal component of T1.
Th = 1800cos(60) = 900N
(b) Determine the horizontal component of T2.
Th = 1800cos(60) = 900N (The same component for T2) - The only thing is I do not understand why this is the same - I only knew to calculate it the same because I have the answers given.
Try applying Newton's 1st Law in the horizontal direction to solve for the horizontal component of T2
 
utku said:
T1/sin40=T2/sin60=T3/sin 80
you can work out the T3 tension from this equality.and it is easily seen from figure mass m equals T3.

using that method, I can't seem to get the correct answer:

1800/sin40 = 1175/sin60 = T3/sin80

((1800/sin40) - (1175/sin60)) x sin80 = 1421.6N

The answer for part d) T3 = 2313N

What method do I apply to get this if it is not the one I currently used?
 
Try applying Newton's 1st Law in the horizontal direction to solve for the horizontal component of T2. Then apply his 1st law in the vertical direction to solve for T3.

Newton's 1st Law:

[itex]\Sigma F_x = 0[/itex]
[itex]\Sigma F_y = 0[/itex][/color]
 
Ok, I've got it now, thanks for your help:

Information given as well as calculations done previously can help to solve part d and subsequently e.

Part d)

T3 = Tv1 + Tv2

Tv1 = 1800sin(60) = 1560N
Tv2 = 900tan(40) = 755N

Therefore, T3 = 1560 + 755 = 2315N

for part e)

m = T3/g = 2315/9.8 = 236kg
 

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