Finding the change in velocity through a potential difference

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the change in velocity of a charged particle as it moves through a potential difference, specifically in the context of magnetic fields and radial acceleration. The subject area includes concepts from electromagnetism and energy conservation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of the equation qB=mv/r and express uncertainty about how to incorporate potential difference into their calculations. There are attempts to relate potential energy to the problem, and questions arise regarding the correct application of radial acceleration equations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on using energy conservation principles, while others are clarifying their understanding of the equations involved. There is an acknowledgment of potential misunderstandings regarding the relationship between potential difference and velocity.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that they are not provided with all necessary equations in their materials, leading to confusion about how to integrate the potential difference into their calculations. There is also mention of missed classes affecting understanding.

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Homework Statement
Question states: A singly charged ion of unknown mass moves in a circle of radius 12.5 cm in a magnetic field of 1.2 T. The ion was accelerated through a potential difference of 7 kV before it entered the magnetic field. What is the mass of the ion?
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qB=mv/r
We're given the equation qB=mv/r which is simple enough. I just don't know how to find the velocity given the acceleration through a potential difference. I tried using the radial acceleration equation given to me but I end up with the square root of a negative...and that breaks math... I assume you're first supposed to convert to volts 7kV=7000V, but what equation do I use after that? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
 
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Use energy conservation assuming that the particle stated from rest. You may have to review the equation for a charged particle's potential energy in an electrostatic field. It's the equivalent of the gravitational ##mgh.##
 
I ended up putting a negative in the radial acceleration equation in my notes...I missed these classes and copied notes from a friend. In our book it has it as a=v^2/r which will allow me to solve for V. Thank you for the help.
 
Patches1532 said:
I ended up putting a negative in the radial acceleration equation in my notes...I missed these classes and copied notes from a friend. In our book it has it as a=v^2/r which will allow me to solve for V. Thank you for the help.
I thought you had difficulty finding the velocity of the particle when it enters the magnetic field. That is calculated using the 7000 V potential difference and is not related to ##v^2/r.##
 
Then maybe I'm misunderstanding the notes. So in the question, we're given B, r, and p.d. and we are asked to solve for mass (m). In our notes, the only equations it gives us are for radial acceleration, F of the magnetic field=qvBCos(theta), F=ma, and qB=mv/r. We're not told how to plug in p.d. into any equation.
 
Yes that rings a bell. I'll look at the link and try to figure it out. Thank you for your time.
 

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