Finding the charge on a capacitator

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The discussion revolves around finding the charge on a capacitor in a series circuit involving three capacitors with given capacitances and a potential difference. The subject area is primarily focused on capacitors and their behavior in electrical circuits.

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the total charge using the formula Q=C*V after determining the equivalent capacitance of the series connection. Some participants question the correct application of voltage across individual capacitors in series and explore the implications of charge distribution among the capacitors.

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Participants are actively engaging in clarifying the relationships between charge, capacitance, and voltage in series circuits. There is a recognition that all capacitors in series carry the same charge, but there is some uncertainty regarding the calculation of individual charges based on total charge.

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There is a discussion about the potential difference across individual capacitors and how it relates to the total potential difference applied to the series circuit. The original poster expresses confusion about the voltage to use for calculating the charge on the second capacitor.

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3 capacitators, C1=8μF C2=4μF C3=8μF, are connected in a colum, over a potential difference of 12V, what is the charge of C2??

i know that connecting the capacitators in a colum, ΣC=(Ca*Cb)/(Ca+Cb)

also i know that
C=Q/V, which i think must be the equation i need since i am looking for Q, but i don't think the V i know is the right V, i think its the V for the whole system.

ΣC1,2=(C1*C2)/(C1+C2)=(8*4)/(8+4)=(8/3)μF

ΣC1,2,3=(C3*C1,2)/(C3+C1,2)=(8*(8/3))/(8+(8/3))=2μF

so now i know Vtotal=12V and Ctotal=2μF

C=Q/V
Q=C*V
Qtotal=2*12=24μC

but how do i find Q2 from the Qtotal
 
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The V is indeed the potential difference over the equivalent capacitor.

Do you know why capacitors in series add up like 1/C=1/C1+1/C2+...+1/Cn? Imagine at the very start the first plate of the capacitor is getting charged. What will this do to the plate below and the plate below and the plate below etc?
 
a sort of chain reaction, 1st will charge 2nd will charge 3rd... so they will all have the same charge?? meaning that
Q2=(1/3)*Qtotal

Q2=Q3=Q1=8μC

is that right?
 
You're almost right. The chain reaction you describe is correct and indeed all three capacitors have the same charge. However this charge is not 1/3 of Qtotal.

Lets call the potential difference over the first capacitor V1, over the second V2 and over the third V3. Using your chain reaction argument we know that Q=Q1=Q2=Q3. We also know that in series V=V1+V2+V3 and we know C=Q/V.

Now let's calculate them separately:
V1=Q/C1
V2=Q/C2
V3=Q/C3

V=V1+V2+V3=Q(1/C1+1/C2+1/C3). Looks familiar? Now calculate this Q and see that Q1=Q2=Q3=Q=Qtotal.
 
so it would probably be easier to just work it out like that from the beginning instead of adding up all the C's,,
thanks
 

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