Finding the circumference of the loop in parametrics

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The discussion focuses on calculating the circumference of the curve defined by the equation 9x² = 4y³ from the point (0,0) to (2/3, 1). Participants utilized the arc length formula, specifically the integral forms involving derivatives dx/dt and dy/dt. The initial attempt yielded an answer of (4√3)/3, but discrepancies arose, with another participant suggesting the result should be (2/3)(2√2 - 1). The conversation highlights the importance of correctly interpreting the curve's nature and applying the appropriate mathematical techniques.

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Homework Statement



find the cumference of the loop 9x^2=4y^3 from (0,0) to (2/3, 1)


Homework Equations



length of curve square root (1+(dx/dy)^2)dy or square root ((dx/dt)^2 + (dy/dt)^2) dt

The Attempt at a Solution



i said x=9t/4 and y= (9t^(2/3))/4

then i found that 0≤t≤8/27

so after finding dy/dt and dx/dt i pluged that into that lengh of curve formula
the answer should be (4(square root 3))/3

But i m not getting the answer...
 
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hangainlover said:

Homework Statement



find the cumference of the loop 9x^2=4y^3 from (0,0) to (2/3, 1)
It's a curve, but not a loop. A loop closes back on itself.
hangainlover said:

Homework Equations



length of curve square root (1+(dx/dy)^2)dy or square root ((dx/dt)^2 + (dy/dt)^2) dt

The Attempt at a Solution



i said x=9t/4 and y= (9t^(2/3))/4
I found it easier to solve for x as a function of y, and then use the first formula you have above. From your given equation, x = +/-(2/3)y3/2. Since you want the arclength between (0,0) and (2/3, 1), x will be >= 0, so the equation simplifies to x = +(2/3)y3/2. The resulting integral can be done with an ordinary substitution.
hangainlover said:
then i found that 0≤t≤8/27

so after finding dy/dt and dx/dt i pluged that into that lengh of curve formula
the answer should be (4(square root 3))/3

But i m not getting the answer...
Are you sure that's the right answer? I get (2/3)(2sqrt(2) - 1)
 

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