Finding the Closest Point on a Surface to the Origin

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The problem involves finding the point on the surface defined by the equation z=exp(sin(x+y)) that is closest to the origin (0,0,0). The subject area relates to optimization in multivariable calculus.

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  • Participants discuss the initial assumption that the closest point occurs at (0,0,1) and question the reasoning behind choosing x=0 and y=0. There is also a focus on the distance squared function and its derivatives.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different approaches to finding the closest point. Some have attempted to derive equations based on the distance function, while others are questioning the validity of the initial assumptions and results.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the setup of the problem and the methods used, including a mention of errors encountered when attempting to solve the equations computationally.

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Homework Statement


Find the point on the surface
z=exp(sin(x+y)) that is closest to the origin(0,0,0)


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The Attempt at a Solution


x = 0, y = 0
z = exp(sin(0)) = exp(0) = 1
The point on the surface z=exp(sin(x+y)) that is closest to the origin (0,0,0) is (0,0,1)
 
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Hi tuablink! Welcome to PF! :smile:
tuablink said:
Find the point on the surface
z=exp(sin(x+y)) that is closest to the origin(0,0,0)

x = 0, y = 0
z = exp(sin(0)) = exp(0) = 1
The point on the surface z=exp(sin(x+y)) that is closest to the origin (0,0,0) is (0,0,1)

Nooo :redface:

let the distance squared = r2 = x2 + y2 + z2.

Is ∂(r2)/∂x = 0 at (0,0,1) ? :wink:
 
Why have you started a new thread?? :confused:
tuablink said:
solve('2*x + 2*exp(2*sin(x + y))*cos(x + y)-2*y - 2*exp(2*sin(x + y))*cos(x + y)')

Noooo! :redface:

Two equations … solve('2*x + 2*exp(2*sin(x + y))*cos(x + y) = 2*y + 2*exp(2*sin(x + y))*cos(x + y) = 0') :wink:
 
Could you give me hints or guide me?
thank you
 
uhh?

ok …

solve('

2*x + 2*exp(2*sin(x + y))*cos(x + y) =

2*y + 2*exp(2*sin(x + y))*cos(x + y) =

0') :wink:
 
I tried and it gave me an error "Warning: Explicit solution could not be found"
 
oh put the computer down and just look at the two equations. :rolleyes:
 


tuablink said:

Homework Statement


Find the point on the surface
z=exp(sin(x+y)) that is closest to the origin(0,0,0)

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution


Here is my result:
x = 0, y = 0
z = exp(sin(0)) = exp(0) = 1
The point on the surface z=exp(sin(x+y)) that is closest to the origin (0,0,0) is (0,0,1)
How did you decide x=0, y=0? However you did it, it's not right. What's an expression for the distance from (x,y,z) to the origin?
 
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