Finding the coefficient of kinetic friction?

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The discussion revolves around determining the coefficient of kinetic friction for a box being pushed across a concrete floor. The problem involves analyzing forces acting on the box, including static and kinetic friction, and the application of Newton's laws of motion.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss how to utilize the given acceleration and applied force to find the coefficient of kinetic friction. There are questions about expected acceleration based on the applied force and how it relates to the observed acceleration.

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Participants have provided hints and guidance on applying Newton's second law to analyze the forces involved. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between the applied force, frictional force, and acceleration, with some participants expressing confusion while others offer clarifications.

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There is mention of a specific force required to initiate movement and the subsequent acceleration of the box, which raises questions about the net force and the role of friction. The discussion reflects an effort to reconcile theoretical expectations with observed outcomes.

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A force of 45.7 N is required to start a 5.0-kg box moving across a horizontal concrete floor. (a) What is the coefficient of static friction between the box and the floor? (b) If the force continues at the same value, the box accelerates at 0.54 m/s^2. What is the coefficient of kinetic friction?

I've been able to solve part (a) which turned out to be .933. What am I supposed to do with the acceleration to solve for part (b)?
 
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xelda said:
A force of 45.7 N is required to start a 5.0-kg box moving across a horizontal concrete floor. (a) What is the coefficient of static friction between the box and the floor? (b) If the force continues at the same value, the box accelerates at 0.54 m/s^2. What is the coefficient of kinetic friction?

I've been able to solve part (a) which turned out to be .933. What am I supposed to do with the acceleration to solve for part (b)?

A 45.7 N force acts on the 5.0 kg box, so you might expect acceleration. How much acceleration would you expect?? How does that compare with the given 0.54 m/s^2 acceleration?? What would account for the difference?? (Hint: F=ma)


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I'm still confused. :x
 
Let's answer the questions in order:
A 45.7 N force acts on the 5.0 kg box, so you might expect acceleration. How much acceleration would you expect?? How does that compare with the given 0.54 m/s^2 acceleration?? What would account for the difference?? (Hint: F=ma)
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A 45.7 N force acts on the 5.0 kg box, so you might expect acceleration. How much acceleration would you expect?? (Consider only the 45.7 N force acting alone.)
(Hint: F=ma)


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Just to add to xanthym's comments:
xelda said:
What am I supposed to do with the acceleration to solve for part (b)?
Apply Newton's 2nd law to find the net force on the object. Then you can figure out what the kinetic friction force must be.
 
F = ma solves for the net amount of force on the object.

In this problem, you have the Frictional Force going one way and the Applied Force (shown by the acceleration) going the other way.

Ff = (mu) * the Normal Force
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Fnet = Fa + Ff (one of these will be negative)


You know the applied force and you know the net force. Go from there.
 
Thanks for the help! I got the right answer after reading all of your hints, but I'll have to think about it some more to make sense of it.
 

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