Finding the Damping Constant for a Hard-Boiled Egg on a Spring

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The problem involves a hard-boiled egg of mass 51.0 kg attached to a spring with a force constant of 25.7 N/m. The egg experiences damping, and the amplitude of its motion decreases over a specified time. The goal is to determine the damping constant using the provided information.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the damping force and the damping constant, with attempts to rearrange equations. Questions arise regarding the meaning of angular frequency and how to calculate it from the given data.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively exploring different interpretations of the equations and discussing the variables involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the meaning of angular frequency, but no consensus has been reached on the best approach to calculate it.

Contextual Notes

There is some confusion regarding the mass of the egg, with one participant correcting the mass from 51.0 kg to 51 g. The discussion also highlights uncertainty about the meaning of the notation used in the equations.

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Homework Statement



A hard-boiled egg of mass 51.0kg moves on the end of a spring with force constant 25.7N/m. Its initial displacement is 0.293m. A damping force f (x) = -bv (x) acts on the egg, and the amplitude of the motion decreases to 0.101m in a time of 4.55s.

Calculate the magnitude of the damping constant .

Homework Equations



f (x) = -bv (x)

curly:} w'=sqrt(k/m - b^2/4m^2)

The Attempt at a Solution



I used:

f (x) = -bv (x)

rearranged to give:

b = -f/v (x)

but this didn't work

Do I have to use:

curly:} w'=sqrt(k/m - b^2/4m^2)

and if so, what's the best way to calculate angular frequency (curly:} w')?

TFM
 
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Any Ideas...?
 
You have "w'=sqrt(k/m - b^2/4m^2)"

I can assume that m is the mass of 51 kg (are you sure you copied that right?) and b is the damping coefficient you want to find. I can even guess that k is the spring constant 25.7 N/m but unless you tell what w' means, that equation is meaningless.
 
It sthe curly Greek w', which I believe means Angular Frequency (?)

TFM
 
Are yes, the egg is 51g:blushing:

TFM
 
I have rearranged the equation to get:

b^2 = 4m^2*((k/m)-(w'^2))

I just need to work out angular frequency from the given infomration, but I am not sure what to do...

TFM
 
Any Ideas?

TFM
 
w' is the Greek letter (small) omega with a ' . It says that the angular frequency w' is given by:

sqrt(k/m - b^2/4m^2)

But I thought that when a letter has a ' by it, you have to differntiate it?

Can anyone give me sime ideas about what formula's are suitable to find the angular frequency, given the above initial data?

TFM
 

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