Finding the Electric Force on a Rod by Linear Charge

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The problem involves calculating the electric force on a straight rod with a varying linear charge density due to an infinitely long, uniformly charged straight line. The setup includes parameters such as linear charge densities λ1 and λ2, distances 'a' and 'b', and the permittivity of free space ε0.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to integrate the forces acting on the rod due to its varying charge density and question how to effectively utilize λ2 in their calculations. There is also a mention of determining the distance between charges in the context of the problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the expression for the electric field due to the line charge and its application to the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the electric field expression, but no consensus has been reached on the approach to take.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of the problem statement, which includes specific charge density definitions and the geometric arrangement of the rod and line charge. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity introduced by the varying charge density on the rod.

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Homework Statement



An infinitely long, uniformly charged straight line has linear charge density λ1 coul/m. A straight rod of length 'b' lies in the plane of the straight line and perpendicular to it, with its enared end at distance 'a' from the line. The charge density on the rod varies with distance 'y', measured from the lower end, according to λ(on rod) = (λ2*b)/(y+a), where λ2 is a constant. Find the electrical force exerted on the rod by the charge on the infinite straight line, in the λ1, λ2, a, and b, and constants like ε0.

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Homework Equations



F = [1/(4πε0)] * [(q1 * q2)/(r^2)]

The Attempt at a Solution



My idea is to first find the the integral of all the forces on an arbitrary charge on the rod. Then integrate the sum of that force as you go up along the rod with the different charge density.

I'm just a bit confused as to how I can utilize λ2.

If we take the line charge as the x-axis and the rod as the y axis, then the distance between two charges is r = sq[x^2 + (a+y)^2]
 

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thiefjack said:

Homework Statement



An infinitely long, uniformly charged straight line has linear charge density λ1 coul/m. A straight rod of length 'b' lies in the plane of the straight line and perpendicular to it, with its nearer end at distance 'a' from the line. The charge density on the rod varies with distance 'y', measured from the lower end, according to λ(on rod) = (λ2*b)/(y+a), where λ2 is a constant. Find the electrical force exerted on the rod by the charge on the infinite straight line, in the λ1, λ2, a, and b, and constants like ε0.

See attachment.

Homework Equations



F = [1/(4πε0)] * [(q1 * q2)/(r2)]

The Attempt at a Solution



My idea is to first find the the integral of all the forces on an arbitrary charge on the rod. Then integrate the sum of that force as you go up along the rod with the different charge density.

I'm just a bit confused as to how I can utilize λ2.

If we take the line charge as the x-axis and the rod as the y axis, then the distance between two charges is r = sqrt[x2 + (a+y)2]
Hello thiefjack. Welcome to PF !

Do you know the expression for the Electric field due to an infinitely long line of charge?
 
Hi! Now that you remind me, I do remember deriving it awhile ago. Completely forgot about it.

E = (2kλ/y)j

Thanks for the reminder.
 
So, for any small length, dy, of the rod, with a charge of dq, the force is (E)(dq).
 

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