Finding the Height of a Block Released from a Frictionless Track

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The discussion revolves around calculating the height from which a block is released on a frictionless track, with a rough area affecting its motion. The initial approach involved determining the block's speed before the rough section to find the height, but the user struggled with this calculation. The solution was ultimately found by applying the principle of energy conservation, incorporating the work done by friction into the equation. This method allowed for the successful calculation of the height. The discussion highlights the importance of using energy conservation in mechanics problems involving friction.
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A block starts at rest and slides down a frictionless track except for a small rough area on a horizontal section of the track (as shown in: http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/5711/25li4.jpg ).
It leaves the track horizontally, flies through
the air, and subsequently strikes the ground.
The acceleration of gravity is 9.81 m/s^2.

At what height h above the ground is the block released? Answer in units of m.



I tried a bajillion different methods, and my latest brought me to figuring out the speed of the block is right before the rough area in order to find the unknown height. However, since I can't find that speed, I can't find that height either. Soemone help please :D
 
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Why can't you find the speed of the block as it leaves the track in terms of h?
 
Err, is this what you meant...:

2.4 = (gt^2)/2
t = sqrt (4.8 / g)
vx = x / t = 3.69/ (sqrt (4.8/g))

vx = v

v = sqrt(2g (h-2.4)) = 3.69 / (sqrt (4.8/g))
h = 3.81834375 m

It's wrong though ><
 
Oh and I'm pretty sure that I need to incorporate the coefficent of kinetic friction, but I can't figure out a way to do it with this problem using Fnet = Fa - Ffr
 
To find the speed of the block, use energy conservation:
Energy(initial) + Work done by friction (which is negative) = Energy(final)

Where Energy means mechanical energy: KE + PE.
 
OH! I can't believe I didn't think of that. Thank you, that worked.
 
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