Finding the instantaneous axis of rotation

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The problem involves a wheel rolling on a horizontal plane, with a focus on determining the absolute velocities of specific points on the wheel at a given moment. The original poster seeks to identify the instantaneous axis of rotation and calculate the velocities of points A and B based on the wheel's center velocity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the nature of the instantaneous axis of rotation, with some suggesting it is at the point of contact with the ground. Others explore the implications of this assumption and how it relates to the velocities of points A and B.

Discussion Status

The discussion has seen various interpretations of the problem, with some participants offering insights on the relationship between the wheel's motion and the instantaneous axis. There is an ongoing exploration of how to calculate the velocities of points A and B, with some guidance provided on using geometric relationships.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge of having multiple unknowns in the problem, which complicates the calculations. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the necessary information to solve for the velocities.

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Homework Statement



http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/2763/wheelturning.jpg

In the drawing is depicted a wheel with radius R (measurements in pic). The wheel rolls on a horizontal plane, across a straight path, without sliding. At a certain moment of the movement, the center of the wheel's velocity (Vo) equals 30 m/s.

Calculate

A) The absolute velocities of point A and B in that moment
B) Mark in the drawing the directions of the velocities

The Attempt at a Solution

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/6429/wheresp.jpg

Where P is the instantaneous axis of rotation. I can't find it since if the distance to P from the center of the circle is x, an unknown, and I also don't know Vb, then I have 2 equations with 2 unknowns!

I had a similar problem but since in that other problem I actually had both velocities I could find P. How do I find P this time?
 
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I venture a guess that P is just where both objects contact; thus: PO=R
That's what I know about round things rolling on flat things :)
 
The point of contact of the wheel with the road has an instantaneous velocity of zero -- it's a momentarily stationary point. Draw lines from that point to the center of the wheel and to points A and B. Imagine that these are radius vectors and that they all rotate with the same angular velocity...
 
P is the point of contact of the wheel with the road.
 
Aha! So whenever a wheel is rolling on a surface, the instantaneous axis of rotation is simply the connecting point with the ground. So, with this logic, I can find the distances to P and find out Vb and Va. Let me see.

Well, I was able to easily get Va. Va is just

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/5959/11559339.jpg


Now Vb is a bit more complicated. I'm not seeing how I have enough info to solve for it.

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/4949/har1.jpg

http://img804.imageshack.us/img804/2449/har2.jpg

Help/hints?
 
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No wait, I'm up to something, don't tell me anything!
 
Got it :) Just needed to add 90 and use Law of Cosines. Problem solved :) Thanks, everyone!
 
Femme_physics said:
No wait, I'm up to something, don't tell me anything!

Sorry, I can't keep shut, I just have to say:

LOL! :smile:
 

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