Finding the Limit of a Series - Solve Unknown Problem

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The discussion revolves around finding the limit of a series, specifically focusing on a problem involving the sum of a sequence defined by a general term related to the integers and their behavior as n approaches infinity.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore different methods to approach the problem, including approximating the series with integrals and discussing the nature of the series as a sequence of partial sums. Questions arise regarding the explicit form of the general term and the known summation formulas.

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The discussion includes various suggestions for approaching the problem, with some participants providing insights into known summation techniques. There is an acknowledgment of the challenge in finding a direct computation method for the series, but also recognition that this particular series may have a more straightforward solution.

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Participants mention the importance of understanding the sum of integers and its historical context, as well as the potential complexity of the problem if higher powers of k were involved. There is an implicit understanding of the limitations of certain approaches in dealing with infinite series.

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I have the following problem:
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I know for a fact that the answer is not 0, but I have no idea how to actually find the answer. I've never seen a similar problem before, and I'm not really sure how to start it.
 
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Can you find a function such that if you approximate its integral over some range by n rectangular strips, you get that sum? Then the limit would just be the integral over that range.
 
I think there's a more direct approach.

Remember that a series is a sequence of partial sums. The general term of the sequence is

[tex]a_n=\sum_{k=1}^{n}\frac{k}{n^2} = \frac{1}{n^2}\sum_{k=1}^{n} k=?[/tex]

You know how to do that sum on the left, and thus you can find an explicit form of the general term. Just take the limit.
 
I'm not really sure what you mean by the explicit form of the general term. Can you give me a little more help, please?
 
Do you know what

[tex]\sum_{k=1}^{n} k[/tex]

sums to? It's sometimes called "Gauss' sum" named after the 8 years old who found the value of the sum in his head when asked to compute the sum of the first 50 integers. :smile:
 
So you can get that sum directly in a few different ways, the simplest of which is to consider the pictures:

*0

**0
*00

***0
**00
*000

etc.

If you know that formula, that's definitely the easiest way. What I was suggesting might be overkill, and I was thinking of it because it's the way you would go about this if you had a higher power of k, ie:

[tex]\sum_{k=1}^{n}\frac{k^p}{n^{p+1}}[/tex]
 
Oh, duh! I can't believe I didn't think of that. Thanks!
 
Generally, given an infinite series

[tex]\sum_{k=1}^{+\infty}b_n[/tex]

you cannot put the general term [itex]a_n=\sum_{k=1}^n b_n[/itex] of the sequence of partial sums in a friendly form that allows for direct computation of the value of the series by just taking the limit:

[tex]\lim_{n\rightarrow +\infty}a_n[/tex].

But the series you're dealing with is one of these rare case where the general term has a friendly form in terms of n that allows for this method of calculating the sum to work.
 
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